Hi guys/gals, I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical. I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write and only visually test. There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used. My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ? thanks, --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed. Brian On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write and only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h> I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?" How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one? I know you are just trying to help, but geeze, he wants to create his own looking glass, not use someone elses. People need to READ messages before responding to them. -Dave
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write
and
only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one?
Have you actually looked at http://nitrous.digex.net/ ? It contains a link to the nitrous LG source code! Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 06:56:44PM +0000, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one?
Have you actually looked at http://nitrous.digex.net/ ? It contains a link to the nitrous LG source code!
That code used rsh, I've got a modified version that use telnet, and at the same time checks the input it gets. available at http://noc.tele.dk/lg.cgi.public you will also need http://noc.tele.dk/Cisco.pm /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.
we have included a looking glass (based on nitrous.digex.net looking glass) with rancid. it's not completely tested, but can be found w/ rancid here: ftp://ftp.shrubbery.net/pub/rancid/rancid-2.1b.tar.gz it uses rancid's login scripts, so it can deal with rsh, telnet, or ssh. it also has some support for junipers and some other bits.
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 06:56:44PM +0000, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one?
Have you actually looked at http://nitrous.digex.net/ ? It contains a link to the nitrous LG source code!
That code used rsh, I've got a modified version that use telnet, and at the same time checks the input it gets.
available at
http://noc.tele.dk/lg.cgi.public
you will also need
/Jesper
-- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-)
One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.
One of the lines in the original was a question asking which are commonly used. That plus a source code link made it seem valid. Brian On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one?
Have you actually looked at http://nitrous.digex.net/ ? It contains a link to the nitrous LG source code!
Simon
-- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
#include <buttmunch.h> Brian could have meant: "On http://nitrous.digex.net/, you will find a link http://nitrous.digex.net/source/source.html." On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, David A. Snodgrass wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one? I know you are just trying to help, but geeze, he wants to create his own looking glass, not use someone elses. People need to READ messages before responding to them.
-Dave
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write
and
only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
dave@thedatasource.net said:
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one?
Well the link on the page to 'source code for the looking glass' might be a good start.
People need to READ messages before responding to them.
You said it -- Alex Bligh VP Core Network, XO Communications - http://www.xo.com/ (formerly Nextlink Inc, Concentric Network Corporation GX Networks, Xara Networks)
Dave, In Brians defense, the source for the looking glass in use at nitrous.digex.net is available at the same location. The source code for the LG I wrote for use in our network is available at: ftp://ftp.enterzone.net/looking-glass/mrlg-3.0/ It was written for use with Zebra but will work with anything with a telnet/rsh UI. I am by no means a perl god but, it works and is commented. Feel free to give it a try. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, David A. Snodgrass wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
#include <asshole.h>
I dont think he asked "Does anyone know the URL to a looking glass?"
How exactly does this help Ariel find some software to create one? I know you are just trying to help, but geeze, he wants to create his own looking glass, not use someone elses. People need to READ messages before responding to them.
-Dave
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write
and
only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
Brian, While nitrous.digex.net is a very valuable tool, I believe that Ariel is looking to set up a looking glass on his OWN network that will show the RIB/FIB on his OWN router(s). --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Brian W. wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write and only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc -- Support your government, give Echelon / Carnivore something to parse -- classfield top-secret government restricted data information project CIA KGB GRU DISA DoD defense systems military systems spy steal terrorist Allah Natasha Gregori destroy destruct attack democracy will send Russia bank system compromise international own rule the world ATSC RTEM warmod ATMD force power enforce sensitive directorate TSP NSTD ORD DD2-N AMTAS STRAP warrior-T presidental elections policital foreign embassy takeover --------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, John Fraizer wrote: Yes, John, you're correct. Anyway, thanks for everyone who replied to my post, I have compiled a list of such resources, and now I am better equipped for making the decision. So, unless there are more LG resources, I thank everyone for their help. best, --Ariel
Brian,
While nitrous.digex.net is a very valuable tool, I believe that Ariel is looking to set up a looking glass on his OWN network that will show the RIB/FIB on his OWN router(s).
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Brian W. wrote:
Myself and many I know use nitrous.digex.net when such a thing is needed.
Brian
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:
Hi guys/gals,
I am looking for looking-glass software that is secure (i.e., that people wont be able to fiddle with the web server it's on). The security factor is critical.
I have written such software myself, but as my boss points out, software that was already tested by alot of people, and that has been running for a while is better security wise than anything I can write and only visually test.
There are quite a few LG on the web, some Perl based, some PHP based, and I even saw one in C (!!). I just want to know which is mostly used.
My personal feeling is that alot of sites just wrote their own, am I mistaken ?
thanks,
--Ariel
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
-- Support your government, give Echelon / Carnivore something to parse -- classfieldtop-secret governmentrestricted data information project CIA KGB GRU DISADoD defense systems military systems spy steal terrorist Allah NatashaGregori destroy destruct attack democracy will send Russia bank system compromise internationalown rule the world ATSC RTEM warmod ATMD force power enforcesensitive directorate TSP NSTD ORD DD2-N AMTAS STRAP warrior-T presidentalelections policital foreign embassy takeover --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Ariel Biener e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html
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