Oct. NANOG - hotel? At the two month marker now.
Hi folks, Could someone with the hotel location data for the 17-19 Oct NANOG please email me? 'Reston, VA' got rejected as not specific enough for the travel authorization. http://www.nanog.org/ & http://www.arin.net/ only list Reston, VA. Thanks, -ren
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 02:00:34PM -0400, ren wrote:
Hi folks,
Could someone with the hotel location data for the 17-19 Oct NANOG please email me? 'Reston, VA' got rejected as not specific enough for the travel authorization. http://www.nanog.org/ & http://www.arin.net/ only list Reston, VA.
Thanks, -ren
http://reston.hyatt.com/property/hotelinfo/about/index.jhtml -Jon
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Jon Mitchell wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 02:00:34PM -0400, ren wrote:
Hi folks,
Could someone with the hotel location data for the 17-19 Oct NANOG please email me? 'Reston, VA' got rejected as not specific enough for the travel authorization. http://www.nanog.org/ & http://www.arin.net/ only list Reston, VA.
Thanks, -ren
http://reston.hyatt.com/property/hotelinfo/about/index.jhtml
$319/night .. ? ouch. do we have a nanog rate? are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate? Steve
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
http://reston.hyatt.com/property/hotelinfo/about/index.jhtml
$319/night .. ? ouch. do we have a nanog rate? are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
If my memory serves me right, that's ~ 6 miles from Dulles. There should be a dozen hotels that cost anywhere between $100..200 within easy cab ride of the place (don't know about buses / metro rail) - homestead / days inn type motels to marriotts
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
http://reston.hyatt.com/property/hotelinfo/about/index.jhtml
$319/night .. ? ouch. do we have a nanog rate? are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
If my memory serves me right, that's ~ 6 miles from Dulles.
There should be a dozen hotels that cost anywhere between $100..200 within easy cab ride of the place (don't know about buses / metro rail) - homestead / days inn type motels to marriotts
was hoping for something within about a block of the hyatt, preferably populated by fellow nanogers.. i'll see what folks are doing Steve
"Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk> writes:
was hoping for something within about a block of the hyatt, preferably populated by fellow nanogers.. i'll see what folks are doing
Reston "Town Center" is not a real "downtown"; it's an artificial open-air shopping mall. The Hyatt is the only hotel there. While it is not inconceivable that you could walk from the Residence Inn or Courtyard hotels on the Reston/Herndon line (the closest hotels that immediately come to mind, though there's also the Sheraton Reston Hotel over by the International Center), any of the above would probably be a half hour to forty five minute walk. Welcome to the suburban hell that is Reston. Enjoy. ---Rob
On 23 Aug 2004, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
"Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk> writes:
was hoping for something within about a block of the hyatt, preferably populated by fellow nanogers.. i'll see what folks are doing
Reston "Town Center" is not a real "downtown"; it's an artificial open-air shopping mall. The Hyatt is the only hotel there. While it is not inconceivable that you could walk from the Residence Inn or Courtyard hotels on the Reston/Herndon line (the closest hotels that immediately come to mind, though there's also the Sheraton Reston Hotel over by the International Center), any of the above would probably be a half hour to forty five minute walk.
Welcome to the suburban hell that is Reston. Enjoy.
ok so seems theres 3 nearby options or you have to look further afield. the hyatt, with rooms at around $319/night the marriott, 3 blocks away rooms at $70(weekend) & $190 (week)/night the sheraton, 5 blocks away at $183/night sheraton gives me spg plus airline miles so thats a good option, :) Steve
ok so seems theres 3 nearby options or you have to look further afield.
the hyatt, with rooms at around $319/night the marriott, 3 blocks away rooms at $70(weekend) & $190 (week)/night the sheraton, 5 blocks away at $183/night
You missed one option. The Hyatt Reston with the NANOG room rate. Since it hasn't yet been posted (promised for the end of the day today) we don't know what that one is. But we do know that it's coming... Michael Dillon
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ok so seems theres 3 nearby options or you have to look further afield.
the hyatt, with rooms at around $319/night the marriott, 3 blocks away rooms at $70(weekend) & $190 (week)/night the sheraton, 5 blocks away at $183/night
You missed one option. The Hyatt Reston with the NANOG room rate. Since it hasn't yet been posted (promised for the end of the day today) we don't know what that one is. But we do know that it's coming...
Or finding a hotel slightly farther away, but enough cheaper to be worth cab fare... RS is right, however... Reston is Hell, but with better visuals. ps: Is anyone else getting tired of the autoresponder from Brad: Thank you for attempting to contact me. Due to spammers I have created a new mailbox for myself. Please foward all correspondence to brad@nefmls.net You'd think network admins would know enough to NOT put dumb autoresponders on mailing lists; but time and again.. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner@nic-naa.net> writes:
... Reston is Hell, but with better visuals.
I'm not certain of the truth of this comparison, having only half the data at hand. However, it has to be just about the least interesting place on the whole Eastern seabord to travel to.
Columbia, MD is a good rival, and I understand there are similarly dismal places on Long Island. "Hey, where did they hide all the gas stations?" ---Rob
Columbia, MD is a good rival, and I understand there are similarly dismal places on Long Island.
So all Rouse developed communities I guess make that hit list. Tampa, Jacksonville, and hundreds of other places around the country count in that sort of "feel". I guess General Growth will be the name on them soon. DJ
Two other hotels that are worth checking: Comfort Inn (~$100 per night, Internet rate) http://www6.choicehotels.com/ires/en-us/html/HotelInfo?sid=nUACM.28A3XlJ Pg.6&hotel=VA405 Holiday Inn Express (~130 per night, Internet rate) http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/wasex?irs=null Neither is really "walking distance" from Reston Town Center but if you get double occupancy with a friend and split a cab or rental car it's much cheaper than the Hyatt. Marc ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ . __ __ Marcus H. Sachs, P.E. KJ4WA : msachs@sans.org |(__ / Director, SANS Internet Storm Center : isc.sans.org | __)\__ Washington D.C. USA (EDT, GMT-4) : +1 703 707 9293 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If you are looking at hotels in the Herndon/Reston area that are not walking distance to the Town Center then bus service might be a cheap alternative to rentals and cabs. The primary bus system in the Reston area is the Fairfax Connector (particularly the RIBS buses I think). Here is a link to the schedules and maps: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/connector/schedulesmaps.htm Also check the Metro Ride Guide, as I believe it will also show Fairfax Connector routes to your destination if available, and it's simple - enter start address and destination address and it will figure out the rest: http://rideguide.wmata.com/ -- Jeff Wheeler Postmaster, Network Admin US Institute of Peace On Aug 24, 2004, at 10:18 PM, Marc Sachs wrote:
Two other hotels that are worth checking:
Comfort Inn (~$100 per night, Internet rate) http://www6.choicehotels.com/ires/en-us/html/HotelInfo? sid=nUACM.28A3XlJ Pg.6&hotel=VA405
Holiday Inn Express (~130 per night, Internet rate) http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/wasex?irs=null
Neither is really "walking distance" from Reston Town Center but if you get double occupancy with a friend and split a cab or rental car it's much cheaper than the Hyatt.
Marc
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... Reston is Hell, but with better visuals.
I'm not certain of the truth of this comparison, having only half the data at hand. However, it has to be just about the least interesting place on the whole Eastern seabord to travel to.
There are a couple of decent shopping malls in the area, always great for contraband gadget/ipod/xbox importing :-) Neil.
ok so seems theres 3 nearby options or you have to look further afield.
the hyatt, with rooms at around $319/night the marriott, 3 blocks away rooms at $70(weekend) & $190 (week)/night the sheraton, 5 blocks away at $183/night
sheraton gives me spg plus airline miles so thats a good option, :)
just be careful about how big a block can be :D In that part of town I'd recommend hiring a car. Neil.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 03:31:59PM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote:
ok so seems theres 3 nearby options or you have to look further afield.
the hyatt, with rooms at around $319/night the marriott, 3 blocks away rooms at $70(weekend) & $190 (week)/night the sheraton, 5 blocks away at $183/night
sheraton gives me spg plus airline miles so thats a good option, :)
just be careful about how big a block can be :D In that part of town I'd recommend hiring a car.
Neil.
Having lived near the Sheraton and walked to the Town Center on several occasions, I can tell you that it will take about 15 minutes to walk and that hiring a cab is not necessary. However, the sites along the way are not that exciting, unless you enjoy looking down at traffic on the Dulles Toll Road. Ginny
$319/night .. ? ouch. do we have a nanog rate? are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
We do indeed have a NANOG rate, and it will be posted at www.nanog.org by the end of the day Monday. The hotel's been working out last-minute details of web registration.
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 10:14, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
Over the course of time I have stayed at everyone of the Dulles area hotels listed below, and don't mind recommending any of them. The Hyatt at Reston is are very nice hotel and worth it if you can stomach the cost. The fact that you would save on taxi/rental fares to and from the NANOG event might help justify staying at the Reston Hyatt. Also, at the Reston-Hyatt there are plenty of restaurants/bars/shops within walking distance. Dulles Hyatt http://dulles.hyatt.com/ Marriott Suites http://marriott.com/property/propertyPage/IADDS Hampton Inn http://www.hamptondulles.com/ Holiday Inn http://www.holiday-inn.com/was-dulles Hilton http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=IADAHHF Good luck, -Jim P.
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 18:57, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 10:14, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
Over the course of time I have stayed at everyone of the Dulles area hotels listed below, and don't mind recommending any of them. The Hyatt at Reston is are very nice hotel and worth it if you can stomach the cost. The fact that you would save on taxi/rental fares to and from the NANOG event might help justify staying at the Reston Hyatt. Also, at the Reston-Hyatt there are plenty of restaurants/bars/shops within walking distance.
Dulles Hyatt http://dulles.hyatt.com/
Marriott Suites http://marriott.com/property/propertyPage/IADDS
Hampton Inn http://www.hamptondulles.com/
Holiday Inn http://www.holiday-inn.com/was-dulles
Hilton http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=IADAHHF
Good luck,
-Jim P.
Not to mention Jazz (at the hyatt) on the weekends, and Me just a few miles away :) This will be my first NANOG so Im looking forward to it. Andre
It's also worth mentioning that several months ago Loudoun County issued a warning to people traveling in and around the area. Basically there was a band of thieves targeting laptops left in rental cars parked in restaurants and shopping areas. I believe that they may have caught the perp, however caution is advised. -Jim P. On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 18:57, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 10:14, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
Over the course of time I have stayed at everyone of the Dulles area hotels listed below, and don't mind recommending any of them. The Hyatt at Reston is are very nice hotel and worth it if you can stomach the cost. The fact that you would save on taxi/rental fares to and from the NANOG event might help justify staying at the Reston Hyatt. Also, at the Reston-Hyatt there are plenty of restaurants/bars/shops within walking distance.
Dulles Hyatt http://dulles.hyatt.com/
Marriott Suites http://marriott.com/property/propertyPage/IADDS
Hampton Inn http://www.hamptondulles.com/
Holiday Inn http://www.holiday-inn.com/was-dulles
Hilton http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=IADAHHF
Good luck,
-Jim P.
One other word of advice, hotel space in this area has been pretty hard to come by in recent months, book early or you may find that the closest available room is in Maryland or at a resort like Landsdowne. Also, there are lots of low-cost hotels on Route 28 north of the airport and Route 7 east of Route 28 (amerisuites and the like). All are a short drive from the Hyatt (20-30 minutes tops). irwin
From: Jim Popovitch <jimpop@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:55:36 -0400 To: <nanog@merit.edu> Subject: Re: Oct. NANOG - hotel? At the two month marker now.
It's also worth mentioning that several months ago Loudoun County issued a warning to people traveling in and around the area. Basically there was a band of thieves targeting laptops left in rental cars parked in restaurants and shopping areas. I believe that they may have caught the perp, however caution is advised.
-Jim P.
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 18:57, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 10:14, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
are there any alternative hotels nearby people are staying at with a more normal rate?
Over the course of time I have stayed at everyone of the Dulles area hotels listed below, and don't mind recommending any of them. The Hyatt at Reston is are very nice hotel and worth it if you can stomach the cost. The fact that you would save on taxi/rental fares to and from the NANOG event might help justify staying at the Reston Hyatt. Also, at the Reston-Hyatt there are plenty of restaurants/bars/shops within walking distance.
Dulles Hyatt http://dulles.hyatt.com/
Marriott Suites http://marriott.com/property/propertyPage/IADDS
Hampton Inn http://www.hamptondulles.com/
Holiday Inn http://www.holiday-inn.com/was-dulles
Hilton http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=IADAHHF
Good luck,
-Jim P.
On 8/23/04 9:12 AM, "Irwin Lazar" <ilazar@burtongroup.com> wrote:
One other word of advice, hotel space in this area has been pretty hard to come by in recent months, book early or you may find that the closest available room is in Maryland or at a resort like Landsdowne.
Also, there are lots of low-cost hotels on Route 28 north of the airport and Route 7 east of Route 28 (amerisuites and the like). All are a short drive from the Hyatt (20-30 minutes tops).
irwin
For those unfamiliar with the Northern Virginia area, 20-30 minutes is indeed, a "short drive". I second Irwin's advice - get hotel rooms as soon as you possibly can. There has been a crunch recently, including the Dulles airport hotels. Do not stay in Washington, DC, unless you know what you are doing. Also, the Metro (subway) doesn't stop at Reston Town Center (the NANOG venue) or anywhere nearby. On the bright side, Reston Town Center is very nice and has lots of places to eat and shop. It is also convenient to the offices of a half dozen carriers on Sunrise Valley Drive, like AOL, Nextel, Sprint, France Telecom, Verizon, Aleron, and many others. Its a good choice. - Dan
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Hi,
We are evaluting whether we should implement DiffServ Based e2e QoS provisioning in our network. Someone recommend that WRED should be used on each node which is setup to send traffic according to DSCP/IP_precedence. They disclame that DiffServ+WRED is the best solution for current network. But, as I know WRED will bias normal TCP flows, while UDP and greedy TCP flows(like BT download) will win in Bandwidth competition.
x/RED in general is pretty useless in reality for most service providers in my opinion. It takes a lot of tweakings to get it to optimal ofcourse and its only efficient in overall TCP and/or congestion managed flows that can back off/drop down during signs of congestion through packet drop. On the same token however, RED is probably useful for certain edge routers, on customer serial interfaces. But again, dependent on the type of traffic customer does, etc.
Is there anybody could do some help on telling me:
1. Is there any ISP use WRED in there network and gain much from it? How do they use it ?
2. Is there any information available on how ISP plan their network according DiffServ architecture?
3. Is there any tool to monitor bandwidth utilization of each QoS class on each node ? Is there any tool to monitor e2e QoS performance of each QoS class?
4. How does they plan trunk capacity in a dynamic network environment? esp. in DiffServ network
5. Is there any possible security problem in a QoS enabled network?
6. How could we optimize network architecutre according to QoS policy?
Each word will be highly appreciated.
Joe Shen
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