Re: single homed public-peer bandwidth ... pricing survey ?
--- Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick@zill.net> wrote:
Jason Arnaute wrote:
Hello,
I am currently hosted in a small, independent datacenter that has 4 or 5 public peers (L3, Sprint, UUnet, AT&T and ... ?)
They are a very nice facility, very technical and professional, and have real people on-site 24 hours per day ... remote hands, etc. All very high end and well managed.
But, I am charged between $150 and $180 per megabit/s for non-redundant, single-homed bandwidth (not sure which provider they put it on) and even if I commit to 20 or 30 megabits/s it still only drops down to $100 - $120 per megabit/s.
Are you sure that you are connected to only one provider? You mean that they are not doing BGP so that if one connection goes down, another path to the Internet is available?
Yes, that's what I am saying - one pipe only, and if it goes down, I go down. So ... I am wondering if roughly $150/mb/s is just way off the charts for something like that, or if I am only overpaying by roughly 10-30% or so ... And then, of course, I'd like to be pointed to where I can learn why HE.NET and L3 are so cheap compared to that, and what my cost/benefit would be to switching... (as for racks and power, it is on the high average side. Roughly $1000/mo for a full cabinet) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
On Mar 6, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Jason Arnaute wrote:
--- Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick@zill.net> wrote:
Jason Arnaute wrote:
I am currently hosted in a small, independent datacenter that has 4 or 5 public peers (L3, Sprint, UUnet, AT&T and ... ?)
They are a very nice facility, very technical and professional, and have real people on-site 24 hours per day ... remote hands, etc. All very high end and well managed.
But, I am charged between $150 and $180 per megabit/s for non-redundant, single-homed bandwidth (not sure which provider they put it on) and even if I commit to 20 or 30 megabits/s it still only drops down to $100 - $120 per megabit/s.
Are you sure that you are connected to only one provider? You mean that they are not doing BGP so that if one connection goes down, another path to the Internet is available?
Yes, that's what I am saying - one pipe only, and if it goes down, I go down.
I am confused. You list 4 very, very large providers, yet say the datacenter has one pipe. Those two statements are in conflict - you can't get all 4 of them on one pipe. Also, you have not mentioned your volume. You say L3 is $30/Mbps, but they are no where near that for 1-5 Mbps of traffic. -- TTFN, patrick
So ... I am wondering if roughly $150/mb/s is just way off the charts for something like that, or if I am only overpaying by roughly 10-30% or so ...
And then, of course, I'd like to be pointed to where I can learn why HE.NET and L3 are so cheap compared to that, and what my cost/benefit would be to switching...
(as for racks and power, it is on the high average side. Roughly $1000/mo for a full cabinet)
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Jason Arnaute wrote:
Yes, that's what I am saying - one pipe only, and if it goes down, I go down.
Ok, so it sounds like they're doing MPLS or some sort of policy routing to force your traffic out one of their transit providers. I've seen other providers do this. Is this something you contractually requested? If so, I'd hope the price would be less than the multi-homed service I'm assuming they sell to other customers.
So ... I am wondering if roughly $150/mb/s is just way off the charts for something like that, or if I am only overpaying by roughly 10-30% or so ...
That depends on how much bandwidth you're buying. If you're buying 1 Mb/s, that's probably not too unreasonable, though maybe just a bit high. If you're buying 100 Mb/s, I'd hazard a guess that you're being robbed. Double-check your contract for what they sold you, compared to what you bought.
And then, of course, I'd like to be pointed to where I can learn why HE.NET and L3 are so cheap compared to that, and what my cost/benefit would be to switching...
Again, it comes down to your current contract and the fine print on the deals the other providers are pitching. I doubt someone will sell you 1 Mb/s of bandwidth at >$30/Mb. Those numbers likely have strings attached to them, i.e. if you buy 100 Mb/s or more, sign some kind of long-term deal, buy other "value-add" services, etc.
(as for racks and power, it is on the high average side. Roughly $1000/mo for a full cabinet)
In some parts of the country, colocation is becoming more of a seller's market - high demand, space is at a premium. jms
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