Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Your quality of life is affected by being turned down for peering how?
Who said I was turned down for peering? When I buy a pipe from an internet provider, I buy it under the assumption that I'm going to be able to see the entire internet from it. I know that probably any given moment, that some small part of the internet is going to be inaccesible due to outages or routing loops, but I do not expect to lose a path to another provider for days because my upstream decides to bully the competition. I depended on, and had customers who depended on, being able to reach AS174, and for years this "just worked" so there was no need to multihome. Short outages, or even overnight outages never hurt us, so single-homing was the way to go. All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI. I lost a lot of money due to Mr. Jansen's fascism. Understand now? Dean
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All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI. I lost a lot of money due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
Understand now?<< I apologize in advance, I'm a total newbie...so what did you have to do? --Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean S Moran" <dmoran@supernetpower.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: RE: ratios
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Your quality of life is affected by being turned down for peering how?
Who said I was turned down for peering? When I buy a pipe from an internet provider, I buy it under the assumption that I'm going to be able to see the entire internet from it. I know that probably any given moment, that some small part of the internet is going to be inaccesible due to outages or routing loops, but I do not expect to lose a path to another provider for days because my upstream decides to bully the competition. I depended on, and had customers who depended on, being able to reach AS174, and for years this "just worked" so there was no need to multihome. Short outages, or even overnight outages never hurt us, so single-homing was the way to go. All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI. I lost a lot of money due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
Understand now?
Dean
Steve
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On Thu, 9 May 2002, Michael Painter wrote:
All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI. I lost a lot of money due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
Understand now?<<
I apologize in advance, I'm a total newbie...so what did you have to do?
Build resilience into his single homed, single point of failure non-redundant network. Steve
--Michael
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean S Moran" <dmoran@supernetpower.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: RE: ratios
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Your quality of life is affected by being turned down for peering how?
Who said I was turned down for peering? When I buy a pipe from an internet provider, I buy it under the assumption that I'm going to be able to see the entire internet from it. I know that probably any given moment, that some small part of the internet is going to be inaccesible due to outages or routing loops, but I do not expect to lose a path to another provider for days because my upstream decides to bully the competition. I depended on, and had customers who depended on, being able to reach AS174, and for years this "just worked" so there was no need to multihome. Short outages, or even overnight outages never hurt us, so single-homing was the way to go. All of that changed when C&W depeered from PSI. I lost a lot of money due to Mr. Jansen's fascism.
Understand now?
Dean
Steve
_____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com
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