Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance.
Subject: IPAM recommendations Date: Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 05:35:19PM +0900 Quoting Mehmet Akcin (mehmet@akcin.net):
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
nipap infoblox if you are an enterprise needing AD herding and got too much cash. -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE SA0XLR +46 705 989668 I had pancake makeup for brunch!
What have you evaluated so far? Can you share your evaluation grid, how you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific interesting findings so far? Thanks! t On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
Not much beyond this, https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/ On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
What have you evaluated so far? Can you share your evaluation grid, how you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific interesting findings so far?
Thanks!
t
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog. if you have research to present and then a question to ask, that's totally great. this is especially true if you can add evaluative criteria and information before asking questions from people who have relevant experience. you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for you. that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill of the community here. this is becoming a pattern. please either do some research yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid consultants to evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking gear etc. best, t On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Not much beyond this, https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
What have you evaluated so far? Can you share your evaluation grid, how you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific interesting findings so far?
Thanks!
t
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
Todd, I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog members ask each other for operational tool recommendations all the time, and since these products are right up the alley of Nanog’s mission — network operations — it’s a perfectly reasonable use of Nanog. But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history, which would immediately show you how frequently Nanog serves in just this kind of valuable role, THAT’S unkind. -mel On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com<mailto:toddunder@gmail.com>> wrote: i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog. if you have research to present and then a question to ask, that's totally great. this is especially true if you can add evaluative criteria and information before asking questions from people who have relevant experience. you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for you. that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill of the community here. this is becoming a pattern. please either do some research yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid consultants to evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking gear etc. best, t On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote: Not much beyond this, https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/ On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com<mailto:toddunder@gmail.com>> wrote: What have you evaluated so far? Can you share your evaluation grid, how you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific interesting findings so far? Thanks! t On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote: Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance.
Lets focus on the technology. Netbox is solid. I am leaning towards this since its open source and there is some librenms integration. I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am not happy and decided to go with something open source On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 21:16 Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
Todd,
I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog members ask each other for operational tool recommendations all the time, and since these products are right up the alley of Nanog’s mission — network operations — it’s a perfectly reasonable use of Nanog.
But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history, which would immediately show you how frequently Nanog serves in just this kind of valuable role, THAT’S unkind.
-mel
On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
i don't think that this is a reasonable use of nanog. if you have research to present and then a question to ask, that's totally great. this is especially true if you can add evaluative criteria and information before asking questions from people who have relevant experience.
you read a single web page and are asking nanog to do your homework for you. that's unkind and is taking advantage of the attention and goodwill of the community here. this is becoming a pattern. please either do some research yourself and start a conversation substantively, or look to paid consultants to evaluate your software/hardware/datacenter space/networking gear etc.
best,
t
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:42 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Not much beyond this, https://appuals.com/the-5-best-ip-address-management-ipam-software/
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:39 PM Todd Underwood <toddunder@gmail.com> wrote:
What have you evaluated so far? Can you share your evaluation grid, how you selected the candidates, how you are weighting criteria and specific interesting findings so far?
Thanks!
t
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:20:19 +0900, Mehmet Akcin said:
I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am not happy and decided to go with something open source
Can you mention why you're unhappy with the product? Price, a critical feature that was lacking, something else? Software in a segment never improves unless the vendors/developers know that doing XYZ well/poorly is a market differentiator....
* mel@beckman.org (Mel Beckman) [Thu 05 Sep 2019, 14:17 CEST]:
I don’t think this is a reasonable understanding of Nanog. Nanog members ask each other for operational tool recommendations all the time, and since these products are right up the alley of Nanog’s mission — network operations — it’s a perfectly reasonable use of Nanog.
Did you read Todd's email at all? He asked the poster to do more homework before bothering the mailing list membership, an entirely reasonable request, especially given their recent posting history of similarly worded questions with lack of background supplied.
But you read a single comment without researching any Nanog history,
This is laughably wrong. Todd is a long-time NANOG attendee and has even served on its Program Committee. (Pot, kettle, black.) -- Niels.
Check phpipam [ https://phpipam.net/ | https://phpipam.net/ ] From: "Mehmet Akcin" <mehmet@akcin.net> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19 Subject: IPAM recommendations Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance.
I forgot to mention Netbox https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox integration (of some kind ) with LibreNMS is plus On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nuno Vieira <nuno@hashpower.pt> wrote:
Check phpipam
------------------------------ *From: *"Mehmet Akcin" <mehmet@akcin.net> *To: *"North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19 *Subject: *IPAM recommendations
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance.
I highly recommend Netbox. We use it for our Source of Truth. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 3:52:09 AM To: Nuno Vieira <nuno@hashpower.pt> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations I forgot to mention Netbox https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ZIMGEkBF3NicW2RKmCzljTQCwZpTR7jm0EBdUFLD1Qj_ZPEGJqCl-GIXL4OeTrcBhfc5JnjViT6xfQGspxdpW7QU8puMn5fc5xQ_i49KckXcoBfAH5nnFIhOATNYnLsqnxhCsP1H3QnHJILhnzD_Pq8CgoV3BqH6aZfKUnAM9ekUGEFyLaZbCaRltC_6i33QcnF_1W2gwdbL1tfa5H6fjGiFsRoDUlKV5dDaENw7gXXiWgjmToY--Bqt50Z350X3NNlK8kLbRGfJs0l0upcVRB-FvakEJ51T9pg8_NmVQjBLJ6d62YQuAUEwZDKMEjnc/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnetbox-community%2Fnetbox> integration (of some kind ) with LibreNMS is plus On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nuno Vieira <nuno@hashpower.pt<mailto:nuno@hashpower.pt>> wrote: Check phpipam https://phpipam.net/<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1NJ1TGKfuE2jMWp0jlt-xoJhpbz2vQzuc4CRetIIQ4Q7aFHzDv-ua2-12hQVDRYGzVxU-7MNU66sDTvDzv5L9pMMg_Zsku8DTFQ_l-QskgAPAFLCygRsjA6SjWVcYtHxvUtaQPt17akmtF5kIpeRZtemukU_5Sox-Y8SKIZvwgshC9Xpj-_RTyfWUk0vb64vhW_Po9hlA1h0RxrEIUKuSHzQb3sFNCv1wfxbmJ_Ld3d5CZbgp_pwTAirqb0iSj562eNakTZ9FNjU2Wk6jwL1uMXsteZ4sEUTz4YLjSQ06IrlIeNLKpBDxN_abAGZdy3WTg72G8YW7pAzJwqW1LYap1g/https%3A%2F%2Fphpipam.net%2F> ________________________________ From: "Mehmet Akcin" <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Thursday, 5 September, 2019 09:35:19 Subject: IPAM recommendations Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance.
phpIPAM -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Sep 5, 2019, at 03:36, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
-- - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote: Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance. -- - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out. It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems. The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean. -mel On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com<mailto:phillipc@phmgmt.com>> wrote: https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote: Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance. -- - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
Thanks for confirming. This is exactly what I think. On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 23:47 Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out.
It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.
The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.
-mel
On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com> wrote:
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Andrew Latham *Sent:* Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM *Cc:* nanog <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: IPAM recommendations
[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
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- Andrew "lathama" Latham -
-- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903
I wish Digital Ocean would put as much effort into policing their network; at least two thirds of the malicious traffic hitting our customers comes from an even split between them and OVH. From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 10:48 AM To: Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com> Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out. It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems. The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean. -mel On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com<mailto:phillipc@phmgmt.com>> wrote: https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net<mailto:mehmet@akcin.net>> wrote: Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed. thanks in advance. -- - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
I’ve both been exposed to newer and better tools - and been annoyed at the noise - in NANOG for almost 2 decades now. So far phpipam has suited our needs. However it takes quite a few clicks to get things done, and anytime you can remove friction you have an opportunity for a better product. -Ben
On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:06 AM, David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
I wish Digital Ocean would put as much effort into policing their network; at least two thirds of the malicious traffic hitting our customers comes from an even split between them and OVH.
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 10:48 AM To: Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com> Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations
I agree with Phil, Netbox is a great opens source IPAM project. We currently use ManageEngine, but I plan to switch to Netbox when our current license is up for renewal. NetBox. The project is supported by Digital Ocean, which is the kind of corporate sponsorship that keeps open source project from dying out.
It’s one of the few IPAM products that recognizes that IP addresses can be assigned to interfaces on a device, not necessarily the device itself. It also supports interfaces having multiple IP addresses. Netbox uses Postgres under the covers, which has IP addresses as a native data type. That means you can also build your own SQL queries to interface with other systems.
The tool is not frilly, but has all the features an IPAM should have for accurate and timely resource management. Plus the code looks clean.
-mel
On Sep 5, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Phillip Carroll <phillipc@phmgmt.com> wrote:
https://github.com/netbox-community/netbox
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+phillipc=phmgmt.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:20 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: IPAM recommendations
[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Please check the mailing list archives as a resource. I made a short list last time https://lathama.net/DCIM which looks to be June 20th 2018
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote: Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
-- - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
Many others have already recommended these, but I suggest installing test VMs of both phpipam and nipap and seeing which works best for your use case. NIPAP has fairly extensive tools supporting automation for provisioning. phpipam has a few additional functions on top of only ip address management, it also appears to have been designed for a use case where people are running geographically spread out layer 2 services and keeping track of which vlan belongs to which customer. On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:36 AM Mehmet Akcin <mehmet@akcin.net> wrote:
Looking for IPAM recommendations, preferably open source, API is a plus (almost must, almost..). 40-50K IPs to be managed.
thanks in advance.
I tried all 3 netbox, nipap and phpipam as a gui user and I like the phpipam the best as it has most knobs and features and is very intuitive, (can't comment on the api richness, yet) But what is strange is that none of these tools provides RT (or extended/standard communities or even vlan for that matter) management the way they provide IP management, that is allow one to create custom pools and then have the next free resource allocated from a pool if needed. adam
You might also want to look at 6connect. Owen
On Sep 6, 2019, at 02:05 , <adamv0025@netconsultings.com> <adamv0025@netconsultings.com> wrote:
I tried all 3 netbox, nipap and phpipam as a gui user and I like the phpipam the best as it has most knobs and features and is very intuitive, (can't comment on the api richness, yet) But what is strange is that none of these tools provides RT (or extended/standard communities or even vlan for that matter) management the way they provide IP management, that is allow one to create custom pools and then have the next free resource allocated from a pool if needed.
adam
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 4:52 PM
You might also want to look at 6connect.
I actually did recently, to potentially migrate from phpipam, but I couldn't even drive the IPAM thing :( Just saying, in phpipam I didn't have any trouble figuring out basic stuff like how to name a subnet, assign IP to A-side host and B-side host on a p2p link with /31 (or /30) subnet, or how to create children off of a parent block in no time. Though what I like about 6conenc is that its insanely customizable and I like the automatic chopping of subnet to equal sized blocks and ability to merge etc., but... as I said couldn't drive even the basic stuff... And regarding the automation capabilities -I actually like the full blown ONAP style automation better. adam
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