End of year freeze (Re: Y2k silly season)
On Mon, 27 December 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Speaking of telephone style networks. Has anyone noticed significant degradation in their cell/pager coverage/performance over the last couple of weeks?
What type of degradation? I haven't noticed any larger than normal problems. Many carriers have a end of year freeze on network changes. Although the freeze has been planned for a long time, I notice it didn't stop sales people from promising due dates during the freeze period. If you are expecting to see new service turned up on Dec 31, I don't think your odds are very good. Some of my friends at other carriers told me they had a big push to get a lot of changes into their networks before December 23 to beat the freeze.
On 27 Dec 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 27 December 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Speaking of telephone style networks. Has anyone noticed significant degradation in their cell/pager coverage/performance over the last couple of weeks?
What type of degradation? I haven't noticed any larger than normal problems.
From a pager point of view, (Skytel is the easiest to pick on). Areas
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation. This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas. that should be 100% full service are showing up in sections as Basic service. Basic service areas are not delivering 100% of the pages until Full service is returned, etc. Same regions. Walking through normal Basic service areas are showing up as Storing messages (no tower connectivity). Essentially the same areas as above.
Many carriers have a end of year freeze on network changes. Although the freeze has been planned for a long time, I notice it didn't stop sales people from promising due dates during the freeze period. If you are expecting to see new service turned up on Dec 31, I don't think your odds are very good.
Some of my friends at other carriers told me they had a big push to get a lot of changes into their networks before December 23 to beat the freeze.
Maybe, I have been noticing it since about a week before Thanksgiving. Deepak Jain AiNET
Having similar problems on the SprintPCS network, in the SF Bay Area.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Deepak Jain Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:33 PM
On 27 Dec 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 27 December 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Speaking of telephone style networks. Has anyone noticed
degradation in their cell/pager coverage/performance over
of weeks?
What type of degradation? I haven't noticed any larger
significant the last couple than normal problems.
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation.
This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas.
From a pager point of view, (Skytel is the easiest to pick on). Areas that should be 100% full service are showing up in sections as Basic service. Basic service areas are not delivering 100% of the pages until Full service is returned, etc. Same regions. Walking through normal Basic service areas are showing up as Storing messages (no tower connectivity). Essentially the same areas as above.
Many carriers have a end of year freeze on network changes. Although the freeze has been planned for a long time, I notice it didn't stop sales people from promising due dates during the freeze period. If you are expecting to see new service turned up on Dec 31, I don't think your odds are very good.
Some of my friends at other carriers told me they had a big push to get a lot of changes into their networks before December 23 to beat the freeze.
Maybe, I have been noticing it since about a week before Thanksgiving.
Deepak Jain AiNET
Hmmm... Will it get worse before it gets better? How many people got phones [cell|pcs] or pagers as gifts this year? And given that this is their first week of ownership will be beating them half silly? Just my .02 -ls- "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> wrote:
Having similar problems on the SprintPCS network, in the SF Bay Area.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Deepak Jain Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:33 PM
On 27 Dec 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 27 December 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Speaking of telephone style networks. Has anyone noticed
degradation in their cell/pager coverage/performance over
of weeks?
What type of degradation? I haven't noticed any larger
significant the last couple than normal problems.
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation.
This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas.
From a pager point of view, (Skytel is the easiest to pick on). Areas that should be 100% full service are showing up in sections as Basic service. Basic service areas are not delivering 100% of the pages until Full service is returned, etc. Same regions. Walking through normal Basic service areas are showing up as Storing messages (no tower connectivity). Essentially the same areas as above.
Many carriers have a end of year freeze on network changes. Although the freeze has been planned for a long time, I notice it didn't stop sales people from promising due dates during the freeze period. If you are expecting to see new service turned up on Dec 31, I don't think your odds are very good.
Some of my friends at other carriers told me they had a big push to get a lot of changes into their networks before December 23 to beat the freeze.
Maybe, I have been noticing it since about a week before Thanksgiving.
Deepak Jain AiNET
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation.
This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas.
That's weird. For what it's worth, things have been improving for me in the Rochester NY region. I can now keep my phone in my pocket in my upstairs bedroom without losing signal, pages come through within about 10 minutes instead of the half hours of weeks past, and my stereo's reception of local non-commercial stations is much improved. I've just been blaming it on the lack of leaves on the trees, but maybe all the good propogation is accumulating up here ;-) -rt (p.s.: cellular provider is Cellular One [800MHz TDMA], pager is pagenet [two-way], non-commercial radio stations are WBER, WRUR, and WITR) -- Ryan Tucker <rtucker@netacc.net> Unix Systems Administrator NetAccess, Inc. Phone: +1 716 756-5596 3495 Winton Place, Building E, Suite 265, Rochester NY 14623 www.netacc.net
I have a AT&T cell with paging.. Both services appear to be functioning just as they always have. Alpha pages reach me within a minute of sending the email. I have never had any fast busies or "no circuits available" related messages. Call processing does vary quite a bit from when I am on the south-west side of Denver (work) and from the south-east side where I live. I recently drove from Denver to Sydney, Nebraska with service just about the entire way. A co-worker with sprint-PCS tells me that his cell has _improved_ in quality recently (ie - better signal strength in basement, etc). But what I hate most about my cell, is that when I am working and nobody is bothering me, then my computer screen starts to wiggle from the interference from the phone, I know a call is coming in and just about throw my phone out the window every time... Just one of those things I guess. Take care all. -Brad Ryan Tucker wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation.
This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas.
That's weird. For what it's worth, things have been improving for me in the Rochester NY region. I can now keep my phone in my pocket in my upstairs bedroom without losing signal, pages come through within about 10 minutes instead of the half hours of weeks past, and my stereo's reception of local non-commercial stations is much improved.
I've just been blaming it on the lack of leaves on the trees, but maybe all the good propogation is accumulating up here ;-) -rt
(p.s.: cellular provider is Cellular One [800MHz TDMA], pager is pagenet [two-way], non-commercial radio stations are WBER, WRUR, and WITR)
-- Ryan Tucker <rtucker@netacc.net> Unix Systems Administrator NetAccess, Inc. Phone: +1 716 756-5596 3495 Winton Place, Building E, Suite 265, Rochester NY 14623 www.netacc.net
I've noticed no changes on my GTE cell phone nor on my SkyTel pager. Brad wrote:
I have a AT&T cell with paging.. Both services appear to be functioning just as they always have. Alpha pages reach me within a minute of sending the email. I have never had any fast busies or "no circuits available" related messages. Call processing does vary quite a bit from when I am on the south-west side of Denver (work) and from the south-east side where I live. I recently drove from Denver to Sydney, Nebraska with service just about the entire way. A co-worker with sprint-PCS tells me that his cell has _improved_ in quality recently (ie - better signal strength in basement, etc).
But what I hate most about my cell, is that when I am working and nobody is bothering me, then my computer screen starts to wiggle from the interference from the phone, I know a call is coming in and just about throw my phone out the window every time... Just one of those things I guess.
Take care all.
-Brad
Ryan Tucker wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Deepak Jain wrote:
Poor signal strength, unusually high number of fast busies when trying to reach local and long distance land lines. High delays in call processing, Higher than normal numbers of automatic redials on call-initiation.
This in areas like Tyson's Corner, South Beach, New York City, and surrounding areas.
That's weird. For what it's worth, things have been improving for me in the Rochester NY region. I can now keep my phone in my pocket in my upstairs bedroom without losing signal, pages come through within about 10 minutes instead of the half hours of weeks past, and my stereo's reception of local non-commercial stations is much improved.
I've just been blaming it on the lack of leaves on the trees, but maybe all the good propogation is accumulating up here ;-) -rt
(p.s.: cellular provider is Cellular One [800MHz TDMA], pager is pagenet [two-way], non-commercial radio stations are WBER, WRUR, and WITR)
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