On May 28, 2012, at 22:59, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:38:23PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:

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Putting it another way, the ISP doesn't want to be fooled even if it is fooling its customers.

don't lie to us, but we lie to our customers.

and you don't see a problem with this?

/bill

We tried saying no, we tried walking customers away, we tried not adding the feature, we tried shame, someone reputedly had dolls with pins in them. We lost. There is an endgame around that; when it's ready.... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone