Randy, To be fair Russ was only asking for a sanity check from those who should know the architecture. If his audience for the diagram were intended to be Nanog, you would have a point, but it is clearly intended to impart the smallest amount of clue to those with none. In that sense he has done well, but he lost the architecture perspective at the end points. ====================================================================== Tony Hain tonyhain@microsoft.com <mailto:tonyhain@microsoft.com> Technical solutions to political problems R us. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 7:50 AM To: Russ Haynal http://navigators.com . Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Internet Architecture Diagram - Comments Please > >And it has no routers in the network diagrams. What a tremendous savings! > > ??? - huh? Are we looking at the same Diagram? No. You are not looking at the DIAGRAM. > I do recognize that there are additional details that could be added in > some places, but I am trying to follow a 90/10 rule in order to fit the > diagram within the limits of a web page (and my limited artistic > abilities) When the 90/10 rule leaves routers out of internet architecture, the posting does not belong on nanog. I leave it to others to judge where it might belong. randy