So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T
Hey guys, Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?), I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I can't seem to find any high-density ones from major vendors. Thanks, Andreas
Check out the Force 10 S4810 switch. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com
wrote:
Hey guys,
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?), I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I can't seem to find any high-density ones from major vendors.
Thanks, Andreas
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Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?), I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I can't seem to find any high-density ones from major vendors.
Is there something unique about your environment that wouldn't allow you to use 10gbit SFP+-based switches with DAC (Direct Attach Copper) cables? Those seem fairly well supported. Jima
In article <CAJ0Nkqgy2x9pUg26CcjcHwDQSMY24f1U0RWmhF2PoH2eHih2zg@mail.gmail.com>, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out.
Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard.
For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)
Arista, http://www.aristanetworks.com/ Mike.
Also, IBM G8364 (uses Broadcom Trident merchant silicon). I believe the Force10 S4810 (also Broadcom Trident) is only SFP+? Intel will force 10GBASE-T on all of us since they can make it backwards compatible with 1000BASE-T. I think this will make the technology take off over the next year or so. Been very happy running SFP+ twinax but sometimes I do wish I could go further than 5/7/8.5 meters. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Miquel van Smoorenburg <mikevs@xs4all.net>wrote:
In article < CAJ0Nkqgy2x9pUg26CcjcHwDQSMY24f1U0RWmhF2PoH2eHih2zg@mail.gmail.com>, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out.
Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard.
For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)
Arista, http://www.aristanetworks.com/
Mike.
Sorry, that is IBM G8264T. G8316 is the 16x40G version. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Brian Loveland <brian@aereo.com> wrote:
Also, IBM G8364 (uses Broadcom Trident merchant silicon).
I believe the Force10 S4810 (also Broadcom Trident) is only SFP+?
Intel will force 10GBASE-T on all of us since they can make it backwards compatible with 1000BASE-T. I think this will make the technology take off over the next year or so.
Been very happy running SFP+ twinax but sometimes I do wish I could go further than 5/7/8.5 meters.
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Miquel van Smoorenburg <mikevs@xs4all.net>wrote:
In article < CAJ0Nkqgy2x9pUg26CcjcHwDQSMY24f1U0RWmhF2PoH2eHih2zg@mail.gmail.com>, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out.
Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard.
For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)
Arista, http://www.aristanetworks.com/
Mike.
It was really unfortunate of Intel to release Romley with 10G copper only support at launch, I hear though that soon there will be motherboards with the SFP+ ports integrated. -----Original Message----- From: Miquel van Smoorenburg [mailto:mikevs@xs4all.net] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:28 PM To: andreas@livejournalinc.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T In article <CAJ0Nkqgy2x9pUg26CcjcHwDQSMY24f1U0RWmhF2PoH2eHih2zg@mail.gmail.com>, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out.
Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard.
For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)
Arista, http://www.aristanetworks.com/ Mike.
Odd wording on the timing; I'm aware of at least one manufactured 1U system with onboard SFP+ that's been available since Q1-Q2 of this year. (I don't work for the manufacturer, just for a fairly happy customer.) Jima On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 7:54am, Drew Weaver wrote:
It was really unfortunate of Intel to release Romley with 10G copper only support at launch, I hear though that soon there will be motherboards with the SFP+ ports integrated.
-----Original Message----- From: Miquel van Smoorenburg [mailto:mikevs@xs4all.net] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 5:28 PM To: andreas@livejournalinc.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T
In article <CAJ0Nkqgy2x9pUg26CcjcHwDQSMY24f1U0RWmhF2PoH2eHih2zg@mail.gmail.com>, Andreas Echavez <andreas@livejournalinc.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out.
Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard.
For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)
Arista, http://www.aristanetworks.com/
Mike.
Andreas Echavez wrote:
Hey guys,
Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks?
Yes.
It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?), I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I can't seem to find any high-density ones from major vendors.
Well, I'm not sure about 48 port. I have several of these: http://www.extremenetworks.com/products/summit-x650.aspx which are 24 port 10Gbase-T switches. I got them in.. late 2008? 2009? Not sure offhand. From the same manufacturer there's the more recent http://www.extremenetworks.com/products/summit-x670.aspx also 1U, which appears to be 48 port or more and to have a copper version but I've not actually seen one. And both models are stackable.
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