I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc? Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications joe@via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
You might find some links in the archives. I've seen a few in person that still make me cringe. jms
On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst: <http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/4.jpg> Google shows lots of pictures, such as <http://englishrussia.com/? p=1836>. -- TTFN, patrick
patrick@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore) wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst:
Still looks like a pasta factory...
That's quality engineering Great pic Stephen Bailey - Senior Lead Systems Engineer Network Operations - ISP & DSL FUJITSU + Infinity House, Mallard Way, Crewe Business Park, Crewe, Cheshire, CW1 6ZQ ( Tel: +44 (0) 870 325 3457 or Internally: 7225 3457 ( Fax: +44 (0) 870 325 3622 or Internally: 7225 3622 : E-mail: stephen.bailey@uk.fujitsu.com " Web: http://services.fujitsu.com/ Fujitsu Services Limited, Registered in England no 96056, Registered Office 22 Baker Street, London, W1U 3BW This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@ianai.net] Sent: 11 February 2009 03:30 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters? On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst: <http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/4.jpg> Google shows lots of pictures, such as <http://englishrussia.com/? p=1836>. -- TTFN, patrick
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=on&q=india+wiring&btnG=Search+Images There are several results for overhead outdoor wiring that just completely boggle the mind and inspire awe. Those pictures are my inspiration whenever I pull cable. Steve On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Bailey Stephen < Stephen.Bailey@uk.fujitsu.com> wrote:
That's quality engineering
Great pic
Stephen Bailey - Senior Lead Systems Engineer Network Operations - ISP & DSL
FUJITSU + Infinity House, Mallard Way, Crewe Business Park, Crewe, Cheshire, CW1 6ZQ ( Tel: +44 (0) 870 325 3457 or Internally: 7225 3457 ( Fax: +44 (0) 870 325 3622 or Internally: 7225 3622 : E-mail: stephen.bailey@uk.fujitsu.com " Web: http://services.fujitsu.com/
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This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@ianai.net] Sent: 11 February 2009 03:30 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters?
On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst:
<http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/4.jpg>
Google shows lots of pictures, such as <http://englishrussia.com/? p=1836>.
-- TTFN, patrick
The main telephone room in every commercial tower I've ever had the displeasure of spending any time in was a disaster. I love how the circuits all use the same color wiring between the 100 pair 66 blocks that were so covered in crud that just touching them would turn your fingers black. The closet(s) next to the elevator shafts on any given floor were more of the same on a smaller scale. It's not any particular RBOC, I've seen this same crap in Nynex, Bell Atlantic, GTE, Bell South, and Pac Bell territory. I have no doubt that Southwest Bell, Ameritech and US West sucked just as badly. You don't have to look far or go to exotic places to find this kind of thing. Telco 'techs' are their own special breed of people who will be up against the wall come the day. J -----Original Message----- From: Steve Church [mailto:nanog@headcandy.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:08 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters? http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=on&q=india+wiring&btnG=Search +Images There are several results for overhead outdoor wiring that just completely boggle the mind and inspire awe. Those pictures are my inspiration whenever I pull cable. Steve On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Bailey Stephen < Stephen.Bailey@uk.fujitsu.com> wrote:
That's quality engineering
Great pic
Stephen Bailey - Senior Lead Systems Engineer Network Operations - ISP & DSL
FUJITSU + Infinity House, Mallard Way, Crewe Business Park, Crewe, Cheshire, CW1 6ZQ ( Tel: +44 (0) 870 325 3457 or Internally: 7225 3457 ( Fax: +44 (0) 870 325 3622 or Internally: 7225 3622 : E-mail: stephen.bailey@uk.fujitsu.com " Web: http://services.fujitsu.com/
Fujitsu Services Limited, Registered in England no 96056, Registered Office 22 Baker Street, London, W1U 3BW
This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@ianai.net] Sent: 11 February 2009 03:30 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters?
On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst:
<http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/4.jpg>
Google shows lots of pictures, such as <http://englishrussia.com/? p=1836>.
-- TTFN, patrick
I generally find datacom closets looking a lot worse than telecom closets. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:jamie@photon.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:27 AM To: Steve Church; NANOG list Subject: RE: World famous cabling disasters? The main telephone room in every commercial tower I've ever had the displeasure of spending any time in was a disaster. I love how the circuits all use the same color wiring between the 100 pair 66 blocks that were so covered in crud that just touching them would turn your fingers black. The closet(s) next to the elevator shafts on any given floor were more of the same on a smaller scale. It's not any particular RBOC, I've seen this same crap in Nynex, Bell Atlantic, GTE, Bell South, and Pac Bell territory. I have no doubt that Southwest Bell, Ameritech and US West sucked just as badly. You don't have to look far or go to exotic places to find this kind of thing. Telco 'techs' are their own special breed of people who will be up against the wall come the day. J -----Original Message----- From: Steve Church [mailto:nanog@headcandy.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:08 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters? http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=on&q=india+wiring&btnG=Search +Images There are several results for overhead outdoor wiring that just completely boggle the mind and inspire awe. Those pictures are my inspiration whenever I pull cable. Steve On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Bailey Stephen < Stephen.Bailey@uk.fujitsu.com> wrote:
That's quality engineering
Great pic
Stephen Bailey - Senior Lead Systems Engineer Network Operations - ISP & DSL
FUJITSU + Infinity House, Mallard Way, Crewe Business Park, Crewe, Cheshire, CW1 6ZQ ( Tel: +44 (0) 870 325 3457 or Internally: 7225 3457 ( Fax: +44 (0) 870 325 3622 or Internally: 7225 3622 : E-mail: stephen.bailey@uk.fujitsu.com " Web: http://services.fujitsu.com/
Fujitsu Services Limited, Registered in England no 96056, Registered Office 22 Baker Street, London, W1U 3BW
This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents are subject to a duty of confidence and may be privileged. Fujitsu Services does not guarantee that this e-mail has not been intercepted and amended or that it is virus-free. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@ianai.net] Sent: 11 February 2009 03:30 To: NANOG list Subject: Re: World famous cabling disasters?
On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
I've always considered this the worst:
<http://englishrussia.com/images/home_networks/4.jpg>
Google shows lots of pictures, such as <http://englishrussia.com/? p=1836>.
-- TTFN, patrick
Joe,
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
The One Wilshire pictures you are referring to were within this Wired article: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/multimedia/2008/03/gallery_one_wilshire?slid e=3&slideView=2 Also there are some great photos at http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/really-bad-wiring-jobs_20.html
Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications
Regards, Randy
Here's some from the University I formerly worked for.. All this is out of commission now, but it wasn't until fairly recently. http://flickr.com/photos/dcmorton/sets/72157604766108671/ -Derek On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM, joe mcguckin <joe@via.net> wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc?
Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications
joe@via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax
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participants (10)
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Bailey Stephen
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Derek Morton
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Elmar K. Bins
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Frank Bulk - iName.com
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Jamie Bowden
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joe mcguckin
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Justin M. Streiner
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Patrick W. Gilmore
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Randy Epstein
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Steve Church