Peter,

Peter Lothberg writes:

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The RA is broken, just relabeling work of Ripe and mess it upp is not very usefull for the Global Internet. Ripe-81 (that most of this is based on) was supposed to be a start of a toolkit for ISP's, not a tol for someone who think they are the network Police.

-Peter

We've had this discussion many times, and will probably never agree. The RA adopted the RIPE database work since it seemed reasonable to express global information in a standard fashion. Credit is given to RIPE and the PRIDE project whenever there is talk of the IRR, RIPE NCC Database, the RADB, etc. The RA team has announced many tools based on the database and the routes known to the route servers: 1) IRRWeb - graphical interface to query the IRR and to update the RADB 2) Route History Server - provides a mechanism for tracking the announce/ withdraw history of a given prefix for the last 24 hours 3) Route Flap Statistics Generator - provides mechanism for calculating the level of routing instability at all of the four NAPs 4) Route Server Routing Table Statistics Generator - reports on the size an content of the Internet routing tables as seen by the Route Servers at each Network Access Point 5) Peval - policy evaluator that inputs RIPE-181 policy expression, performs certain calculations, and outputs expressions that can be used by other tools, like RTConfig 6) RTConfig - front-end tool that uses Peval and RADBserver to generate router configurations 7) RADBserver - extension of the RIPE whoisd server which provides a protocol for getting information from RIPE-style database files 8) RSd - an enhanced version of GateD routing software that provides multiple views of routing information 9) rrc2r/rrmerge - a package to convert Cisco router configuration files to RIPE-181 objects that can be submitted to a RIPE-style database 10) CiscoBGP - analyzes routing information from production Ciscos and compares the data with routes in the IRR 11) BGPCheck - compares information from BGP4 peering sessions with the route serves with data in the IRR 12) PRtraceroute - developed by the PRIDE project, the RA team provides a version that queries the RADB In addition if you look at the RA web pages, you will find descriptions of other tools which are under development. The RA is committed to working with the community to develop tools that are seen as beneficial. --Elise (does NOT rhyme with police)