RE: AS8584 taking over the internet
-----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:51 PM To: Dalvenjah FoxFire Cc: nanog@merit.org Subject: Re: AS8584 taking over the internet
IOW, if some terrorist group manages to get set up where they can announce BGP, they can toy essentially with whatever they like, until people/their upstream gets a clue and installs filters.
-before we get too hysterical, it may be worth noting that to date the -problems have been caused by lack of clue, not lack of ethics, morals, -or empathy. not that this is reason less for caution, but it might -guide our reaction towards the actual, as opposed to imagined, problems. -randy Nevertheless, he is right. Best regards, David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions
If....smurf is a terrorist tool my friend..... Dave Van Allen wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:51 PM To: Dalvenjah FoxFire Cc: nanog@merit.org Subject: Re: AS8584 taking over the internet
IOW, if some terrorist group manages to get set up where they can announce BGP, they can toy essentially with whatever they like, until people/their upstream gets a clue and installs filters.
-before we get too hysterical, it may be worth noting that to date the -problems have been caused by lack of clue, not lack of ethics, morals, -or empathy. not that this is reason less for caution, but it might -guide our reaction towards the actual, as opposed to imagined, problems.
-randy
Nevertheless, he is right.
Best regards,
David Van Allen - FASTNET(tm) / You Tools Corporation dave@fast.net (888)321-FAST(3278) http://www.fast.net FASTNET - Business and Personal Internet Solutions
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IOW, if some terrorist group manages to get set up where they can announce BGP, they can toy essentially with whatever they like, until people/their upstream gets a clue and installs filters. -before we get too hysterical, it may be worth noting that to date the -problems have been caused by lack of clue, not lack of ethics, morals, -or empathy. not that this is reason less for caution, but it might -guide our reaction towards the actual, as opposed to imagined, problems. Nevertheless, he is right.
Yup. Same for the person who said airplanes could hit our exchange points. It's hard enough dealing with the problems we actually have, 8584, 7007, 128/9, and daily accidental space 'stealing'. Let's not drag red herrings across the path. Of course, the need for filtering remains. I don't think we saw the 8584 incident over here, likely becase we filter. But I am sadly sure that a real terrorist attack will take filtering into account. randy
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