Anyone else receive a "de-peering" letter from Cable & Wireless recently? It even included a friendly "a sales representative from C&W will be contacting you to offer alternative services to access 3561." We peered with MCI prior to the spin off as well as the original C&W network since 1997. Has C&W gotten so large and arrogant that they think they can de-peer with another transit free network and it won't hurt them? Who gets hurt more if a hole is created due to de-peering? The two networks in the dispute or the reputation of the Internet as an unstable network held together with loose agreements that seem to be revisited annually and always risk getting ripped apart by revenue driven management? Looks like it is time for another chapter in the "peering disputes" NANOG archive book. K -- | Kyle C. Bacon | http://www.fnsi.net | Fiber Network Solutions, Inc. | Executive Vice President & COO
Who gets hurt more if a hole is created due to de-peering?
you do. c&w loses .00001 of the net. you lose .02. next question.
randy
Not so fast. While each of his customers is more inconvenienced than each c&w customer, c&w has more customers. The net inconvenience (total number of people inconvenienced multiplied by the average inconvenience to each) might be nearly the same on both sides. As an added bonus, he has someone else to blame. DS PS: Sorry for the late reply. I was away for a week.
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 07:31:25PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
Who gets hurt more if a hole is created due to de-peering?
you do. c&w loses .00001 of the net. you lose .02. next question.
randy
Not so fast. While each of his customers is more inconvenienced than each c&w customer, c&w has more customers. The net inconvenience (total number of people inconvenienced multiplied by the average inconvenience to each) might be nearly the same on both sides. As an added bonus, he has someone else to blame.
That depends. Somebody that small (0.0001) is not going to be transit free... so there isn't really a hole created. Sure, the smaller guy is going to be paying more on transit rather than peering, but C&W customers probably won't notice a thing, other than some relief on the congested pipes to the public peering points. -- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 To send me mail, use the address in the From: header
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David Schwartz
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Kyle C. Bacon
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Randy Bush