RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened
The FCC has, as of Thursday the 26th, adopted all aspects of the FTC DNCR. Now all
long-distance phone companies airlines banks and credit unions; and the business of insurance,
are fully covered and enforceable. count one for the good guys!! -----Original Message----- From: Roland Perry [mailto:roland@linx.net] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:03 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened In message <A44DA7EDD8262343B02C64AF7E063A07A55349@kenya.ba.tronet.sk>, Tomas Daniska <tomas@tronet.com> writes
<quote> Q: If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will it stop all telemarketing calls?
A: No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most, but not all, telemarketing calls. Some businesses are exempt from the national registry and still can call you even if you place your number on it. Exempt businesses include:
long-distance phone companies airlines banks and credit unions; and the business of insurance, to the extent that it is regulated by state law.
All the above text has now disappeared from their site ! -- Roland Perry, LINX
On Monday, Jun 30, 2003, at 19:16 Canada/Eastern, Callahan, Richard M, SOLGV wrote:
The FCC has, as of Thursday the 26th, adopted all aspects of the FTC DNCR. Now all
long-distance phone companies airlines banks and credit unions; and the business of insurance,
are fully covered and enforceable. count one for the good guys!!
Of course, it does nothing for people outside the US who get cold-called by US-based telemarketers. It's almost understandable how that could happen if you live in Canada, since Canadian numbers live in the North American number plan, but I used to get called by people trying to sell investment advice and long-distance calling plans while I lived in Auckland. It was occasionally amusing to keep them on the phone for about half an hour, and then say "of course, you realise this is an international call, there's no way I can buy what you're selling, and in fact this is costing you vast sums of money". Until I realised that they thought "international" meant out-of-state, and that they thought New Zealand was a town in Southern California. Joe
--On 30 June 2003 22:12 -0400 Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org> wrote:
Of course, it does nothing for people outside the US who get cold-called by US-based telemarketers. ... It was occasionally amusing to keep them on the phone for about half an hour,
I had thought that this was the purpose of hold music... Alex
It was occasionally amusing to keep them on the phone for about half an hour, and then say "of course, you realise this is an international call, there's no way I can buy what you're selling, and in fact this is costing you vast sums of money". Until I realised that they thought "international" meant out-of-state, and that they thought New Zealand was a town in Southern California.
And bulk buying international minutes to non-regulated destinations costs you less than a consumer pays for interstate call within the US. So if you time is worth less than $2 an hour, go ahead :-) If the event you describe happened 10 years ago, you actually did some good. Pete
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:28:05 +0200 "Petri Helenius" <pete@he.iki.fi> wrote: | bulk buying international minutes to non-regulated destinations costs | you less than a consumer pays for interstate call within the US. On which basis inbound telemarketing calls from ostensibly non-regulated sources may be expected to start real soon now. It is already happening with unsolicited faxes, as some people are painfully aware. This comment is not to be taken as a view on whether such calls would, or would not, be caught by the new legislation. It may however be taken as a view as to whether the telemarketers think they can get away with it! -- Richard D G Cox Mandarin Technology
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