With all due respect, we have a *problem*. End user machines on broadband connections are being misconfigured and/or compromised in frightening numbers. These machines are being used for everything from IRC flooder to spam engines, to DNS servers to massive DDoS infrastructure. If the ability of a teenager to launch a gb/s DDoS, or of someone DoSing mailservers off the internet with a trojan that contains a spam engine is not operational, perhaps it's just me that's confused.

Why don't you come to the next NANOG in Miami in February and give a presentation on how people are doing these things? The trouble with a mailing list discussion is that it wanders all over the place. But at NANOG you could focus on the network operational issues of these networks of compromised machines. --Michael Dillon