Hmmm, have to disagree with your opinion Tampa too. Ever been to Ybor City (just a hop-skip from Tampa)? They shut down the main drag and let you stumble from bar to bar without fear of being hit by a car. Also lots of great restaurants there. I spent 6 mths there stationed at MacDill AFB and loved it. I would move there if I weren't married to someone who has two possible skin colors - fish belly white and lobster red. Diane Turley Network Engineer Xspedius Communications Co. 636-625-7178 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Deepak Jain Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:55 AM Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Oct. NANOG - hotel? At the two month marker now.

Columbia, MD is a good rival, and I understand there are similarly dismal places on Long Island.

So all Rouse developed communities I guess make that hit list. Tampa, Jacksonville, and hundreds of other places around the country count in that sort of "feel". I guess General Growth will be the name on them soon. DJ