First I agree that this is BAD on general principle but... IANAL but IMHO spewing cracked copies of say, Photoshop, or other copyright violations might be considered probable cause with the specific place/things being the share program and it's contents. Sharing the content of your favorite program/CD/DVD with the world has never met "fair use." I had significant input in my life regarding the difference between "can" and "may." IMHO significant numbers of net citizens have forgotten that difference. Just my 2¢. Best regards, _________________________ Alan Rowland -----Original Message----- From: Joseph T. Klein [mailto:jtk@titania.net] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM To: Marshall Eubanks; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking I would argue that my home computer is the repository of my papers and effects. No place in the below law does it limit the restriction to the government only. Indeed any law passed giving sanction to any party having the right IMHO is in direct violation of both the spiret and the letter of the Bill of Rights. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. The dogs of stupidy have been unleashed. --On Wednesday, 24 July 2002 12:40 -0400 Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:

Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have to clean up the resulting messes...

Regards Marshall Eubanks

-- Joseph T. Klein jtk@titania.net "... preserve, protect and defend the constitution ..." -- Presidential Oath of Office