RE: IPv6 deployment excuses - IPv6 only resources
Is there a list of IPv6 only ISP or services? I'd be curious to trend that somehow, by geography, service type, etc... if any.
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews Sent: July-04-16 9:49 AM To: Matt Hoppes Cc: Tore Anderson; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 deployment excuses
In message <B9CDA0F3-AE6F-435D-9904- C2AE05BCCCCB@rivervalleyinternet.net>, Matt Hoppes writes:
I disagree. Any data center or hosting provider is going to continue to offer IPv4 lest they island themselves from subscribers who have IPv4 only - which no data center is going to do.
One can not run IPv6 only because there are sites that are only IPv4.
Thus, as an ISP you can safely continue to run IPv4. Ipv4 won't be going away for at least ten years or more - if ever.
I'm not saying don't be ready for IPv6. I'm not saying don't understand how it works. But doomsday isn't here.
There are ISP's that are essentially IPv6 only today as they do not have enough IPv4 addresses to give all their customers a public IPv4 address.
Once you need to run a GGN you may as well run DS-Lite, MAP* or (shudder) DNS64/NAT64 as NAT444. There is no need to talk IPv4 to your customers today. You still need a small number of IPv4 address to talk to legacy IPv4 servers on the internet. Just because there owners don't know they are legacy servers doesn't mean they aren't.
Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Jacques Latour <jacques.latour@cira.ca> wrote:
Is there a list of IPv6 only ISP or services? I'd be curious to trend that somehow, by geography, service type, etc... if any.
Since "IPv6 only" right now is primarily about those portions of the network that are under a single organization's control, the rest of us will only know about them, for the most part, from reports from those organizations. As such, I doubt there's a list, per se, though somebody may be collecting one. Off the top of my head, Facebook has reported moving to IPv6 only below their edge. T-Mobile's cellular data is IPv6 only for newer handset and will become fully IPv6-only when the older handsets age off. IPv4 Internet access is provided through some combination of NAT64/DNS64/464xlat. Comcast isn't (to the best of my knowledge) hasn't yet made any moves in that direction, but have presented on moving to IPv6 only offering IPv4 as a service on top of it. Starting this past June 1 (from what I've heard) Apple is requiring all apps submitted to their app store to support IPv6 only networks. The US Federal CIO is expanding IPv6 transition focus to government enterprise networks from the previous, more Internet-based focus. Again, those are just a handful of the large-scale efforts I've personally heard about. But those are all some pretty significant players on the Internet. And there are likely to be many more who aren't publicizing their efforts. Of course, I happen to mostly pay attention to activity in the US, so there's that selection bias in play as well. Scott
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