Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
MAAWG is has no size limitations as to members. Yes we do have a $4000 supporter membership. This has not proved a barrier to many organisations. Mike O'Reirdan Chairman, MAAWG ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Billon <bbillon-ml@splio.fr> To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tue Sep 08 17:17:58 2009 Subject: Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation ISPs can be invited and there are specific meetings for them (closed to other members). There're also whitepapers for ISP (and others). But I agree, hoping ALL the ISPs join MAAWG or even hear about it is utopian. -- Benjamin William Astle a écrit :
J.D. Falk wrote:
Seth Mattinen wrote:
I was always under the impression that smaller orgs were not allowed to join the MAAWG club.
I've heard that, too, but have no idea where it comes from. It's not true; there's no size requirement or anything like that.
http://www.maawg.org/ has the membership application and other info.
The $4000/year minimum membership fee is a non-starter for small organizations who are already strapped for operating cash as it is. This is probably where the perception comes from.
O'Reirdan, Michael wrote:
MAAWG is has no size limitations as to members. Yes we do have a $4000 supporter membership. This has not proved a barrier to many organisations.
Likely because for the ones for whom it is a barrier, they look at the cost and don't even bother considering an initial contact. Thus, you never hear about it. Admittedly, most smaller organizations simply don't have the time to participate in even a handful of the $bignum industry organizations (whether they cost money or not) so that's likely a more substantial barrier. To be completely clear, it's not clear to me that an organization that cannot afford $4000/year would actually have the resources to participate in a meaningful way anyway. Which is to say that I do not necessarily disagree with the fee structure, and that is speaking from under my "small organization for whom the $4k/year is an insurmountable barrier" hat. All that said, I believe I have had my say sufficiently so I will not contribute further to the overall noise level on NANOG.
Mike O'Reirdan Chairman, MAAWG
----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Billon <bbillon-ml@splio.fr> To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tue Sep 08 17:17:58 2009 Subject: Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
ISPs can be invited and there are specific meetings for them (closed to other members). There're also whitepapers for ISP (and others).
But I agree, hoping ALL the ISPs join MAAWG or even hear about it is utopian.
-- Benjamin
William Astle a écrit :
J.D. Falk wrote:
Seth Mattinen wrote:
I was always under the impression that smaller orgs were not allowed to join the MAAWG club. I've heard that, too, but have no idea where it comes from. It's not true; there's no size requirement or anything like that.
http://www.maawg.org/ has the membership application and other info.
The $4000/year minimum membership fee is a non-starter for small organizations who are already strapped for operating cash as it is. This is probably where the perception comes from.
-- William Astle lost@l-w.ca
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