At 12:49 AM -0500 10/18/96, Jeremy Porter wrote:
So did they get all the nasty crashing bugs out of Netstar's broken version of gated?
At 8:46 AM -0400 10/18/96, Dima Volodin wrote:
You said - "gated"? Oh my gawd...
It's very popular in some circles to bash gated; I'm not quite sure why. I'm seldom able to get specific, substantive criticisms from people who make comments like these, other than to say that the configuration language is not obvious and not well-documented (I agree, for now). Like any piece of software, gated does of course have some bugs in it, but I haven't seen evidence that it has more or more egregious bugs than other routing protocol implementations. And it gets a lot of things right that some people don't -- for example, it sends withdraws only for routes it has announced. I could go on, but I won't. The bugs are, of course, being worked on as they are found, just as with any other software. IMO gated's stability is pretty decent at this point. Likewise, it's missing some features, which are also being worked on. The proof of the pudding is of course in real-world use. As I assume most people on this list know, more than one large, respected backbone operator uses (or has used until recently) gated as their routing software, for quite some time. I've seen no evidence to suggest that gated is problematic for them; quite the contrary. Regards, --John -- John Scudder email: jgs@ieng.com Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (313) 669-8800 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (313) 669-8661 Ann Arbor, MI 41804 www: http://www.ieng.com
You said - "gated"? Oh my gawd...
It's very popular in some circles to bash gated; I'm not quite sure why. I'm seldom able to get specific, substantive criticisms from people who make comments like these, other than to say that the configuration language is not obvious and not well-documented (I agree, for now). By my experience, gated have _WELL DOCUMENTED_ configuration files, and well defined configuration ideas. The control for redistributions is much easy via gated than via IOS. If IOS is the heap of different commands withouth any order (let's try to configure async interface - why do you have write - peer default address ... async ... ip unnumbered ...
etc, etc - there is only THE GOD and THE SYSTEM PROGRAMMERS who can remember this crasy configurations). This is easy to understand _WHY_. THis is because gated is 1-protocol router, not multiprotocol. It have not thousand of useless commands. It was written by the small programmer's group. Why do I write it? Not because I think freeware gated can compete with IOS. But because gated is well designed project (and program) and it can be impoved hardly by the good software company. And why do you think router XXX have to be bad because it's based on _gated_ program? If somebody will implement all nessesary IOS's features in the gated-based program - I'll prefere this (if other things would be the same) because it's easy to configure and to control. --- Aleksei Roudnev, Network Operations Center, Relcom, Moscow (+7 095) 194-19-95 (Network Operations Center Hot Line),(+7 095) 239-10-10, N 13729 (pager) (+7 095) 196-72-12 (Support), (+7 095) 194-33-28 (Fax)
On Fri, 18 Oct 96 20:30:42 +0400 alex@relcom.eu.net alleged:
You said - "gated"? Oh my gawd...
It's very popular in some circles to bash gated; I'm not quite sure why. I'm seldom able to get specific, substantive criticisms from people who make comments like these, other than to say that the configuration langua ge is not obvious and not well-documented (I agree, for now).
The documentation could be a little better, but the command langauge is far superior to IOS. The only think I'd love in gated is aspath-prepend, which I'm hacking in myself... Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. E A S Y N E T G R O U P P L C neil@EASYNET.NET NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A> [N.B.: I have no affilation with Cyberia or the CyberWorkers Unite Party]
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