In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you:
From info@senora.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 21 17:29:07 1997 Received: from home.glasscity.net (home.glasscity.net [208.13.0.1]) by ccnet4.ccnet.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05294; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:29:06 -0800 (PST) From: info@senora.demon.co.uk Received: from home.glasscity.net (194.72.198.24) by home.glasscity.net (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id <B0000772250@home.glasscity.net>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:28:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:28:01 -0500 Message-ID: <B0000772250@home.glasscity.net> Subject: Dear spam hater. X-UIDL: 23485792837498720384760912734067 Priority: normal X-Flags: PXU2-4R65-2264:R Apparently-To: <anon@anon.net> X-Status: Status: RO
HA HA HA HA You are on a published list of peolple who hate commercial mail! How STUPID can you get! Commercial email is just taking off - and I'm going to distribute this list everywhere I can to shut you whining people with nothing better to do than complain up! It's BASTARDS like you who got me shut down last time - but demon won't touch me! HA HA HA! I can go thru DIFFERENT servers! ANYTIME........... Alan -- Alan K Baker (MailWurliTzer Willy) www.senora.demon.co.uk alan@senora.demon.co.uk -- ___ / ~-. Scott Call | \ TCP/IP Network Administrator/Holder of Past Knowledge \\j`j; / , CCnet, Inc http://www.ccnet.com/ (^, )bxr~ Walnut Creek, CA ---' http://www.devolution.com/ 46. Outrageous vehicles only make the hero cooler. 101. Mallets can be stored anywhere on anybody. -All I Need to Know I Learned From Anime
Scott Call writes:
In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you:
[Spam from a Demon customer cut] I think if you try mailing the spam concerned to abuse@demon.net they will deal with it - regardless of what the spammer may claim. Did you try that? Rick -- Rick Payne, Senior Network Admin | Meddle not in the affairs of NETCOM Internet Ltd. | dragons - for you are crunchy & rickp@corp.netcom.net.uk | taste great dipped in chocolate.
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Rick Payne wrote: ==>Scott Call writes: ==> > In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought ==> > I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you: ==> ==>[Spam from a Demon customer cut] ==> ==>I think if you try mailing the spam concerned to abuse@demon.net they ==>will deal with it - regardless of what the spammer may claim. ==> ==>Did you try that? If you look at the headers again (I won't repost them), the spam actually was sent through a US mail relay from an IP behind enterprise.net, a customer of BT. Demon isn't in the headers, and I imagine it's probably a ploy to get people to attack demon.co.uk. However, abuse@the-involved-providers-here is a much better forum to address your complaints. /cah
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Rick Payne wrote:
Scott Call writes:
In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you:
[Spam from a Demon customer cut]
I think if you try mailing the spam concerned to abuse@demon.net they will deal with it - regardless of what the spammer may claim.
Did you try that?
I got the same annoying spam, more than once, and reported it to abuse@demon.co.uk. I got a reply back within the hour with a tracking number. Haven't heard anything since then, but it's only been two days and I don't doubt that demon is taking care of this. Jeremiah
On Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:29:38 -0800 Scott Call <scall@ccnet.com> wrote: And if you look very closely you'll see that it didn't come from Demon. Neil.
In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you:
From info@senora.demon.co.uk Fri Feb 21 17:29:07 1997 Received: from home.glasscity.net (home.glasscity.net [208.13.0.1]) by ccnet4.ccnet.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05294; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:29:06 -0800 (PST) From: info@senora.demon.co.uk Received: from home.glasscity.net (194.72.198.24) by home.glasscity.net (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id <B0000772250@home.glasscity.net>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:28:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:28:01 -0500 Message-ID: <B0000772250@home.glasscity.net> Subject: Dear spam hater. X-UIDL: 23485792837498720384760912734067 Priority: normal X-Flags: PXU2-4R65-2264:R Apparently-To: <anon@anon.net> X-Status: Status: RO
HA HA HA HA
You are on a published list of peolple who hate commercial mail!
How STUPID can you get! Commercial email is just taking off - and I'm going to distribute this list everywhere I can to shut you whining people with nothing better to do than complain up!
It's BASTARDS like you who got me shut down last time - but demon won't touch me! HA HA HA!
I can go thru DIFFERENT servers! ANYTIME...........
Alan
-- Alan K Baker (MailWurliTzer Willy) www.senora.demon.co.uk alan@senora.demon.co.uk
-- ___ / ~-. Scott Call | \ TCP/IP Network Administrator/Holder of Past Knowledge \\j`j; / , CCnet, Inc http://www.ccnet.com/ (^, )bxr~ Walnut Creek, CA ---' http://www.devolution.com/ 46. Outrageous vehicles only make the hero cooler. 101. Mallets can be stored anywhere on anybody. -All I Need to Know I Learned From Anime
-- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil@DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
In light of the recent spam/nospam discussions on the list, I thought I'd share something one of my customers got with the rest of you:
Like all of these, sending mail to abuse@demon.net will get you to the right people. It seems that the increase in spam along with the natural decrease in the ability of ISP-bought-in-a-box providers means that too much spam will be treated as if it actually originated from where it said in the From: headers without the complainants actually looking. Has anyone also noticed that in Micro$oft Outlook you cannot seem to ever get back to the original headers, only the translated ones. If someone can maybe give me a pointer, 'cause without the headers and an increase in the "consumer" user base, tracking is going to be one step harder. If not impossible. [PS I happen to work for Demon] Regards, -- Peter Galbavy @ Home in Wonderland http://www.wonderland.org/ http://www.whirl-y-gig.org.uk/ http://www.demon.net Be remembered not for your final destination, but for your journey.
participants (6)
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Craig A. Huegen
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Jeremiah Kristal
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Neil J. McRae
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Peter Galbavy
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Rick Payne
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Scott Call