[funsec] The "Great IPv6 experiment" (fwd)
I am unsure what to say. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:14:34 +0200 From: Lubomir Kundrak <lkundrak@redhat.com> To: funsec <funsec@linuxbox.org> Subject: [funsec] The "Great IPv6 experiment" This is kind of... interesting. [snip] We're taking 10 gigabytes of the most popular "adult entertainment" videos from one of the largest subscription websites on the internet, and giving away access to anyone who can connect to it via IPv6. No advertising, no subscriptions, no registration. If you access the site via IPv4, you get a primer on IPv6, instructions on how to set up IPv6 through your ISP, a list of ISPs that support IPv6 natively, and a discussion forum to share tips and troubleshooting. If you access the site via IPv6 you get instant access to "the goods". [snip] More on http://www.ipv6porn.com/ -- Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team) _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Gadi Evron wrote:
I am unsure what to say.
The idea is quite old and I'm happy to see that what started and continued as a joke is actually being tried out to see if it would really work. Hope they get it up and running soon. Pete
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:14:34 +0200 From: Lubomir Kundrak <lkundrak@redhat.com> To: funsec <funsec@linuxbox.org> Subject: [funsec] The "Great IPv6 experiment"
This is kind of... interesting.
[snip]
We're taking 10 gigabytes of the most popular "adult entertainment" videos from one of the largest subscription websites on the internet, and giving away access to anyone who can connect to it via IPv6. No advertising, no subscriptions, no registration. If you access the site via IPv4, you get a primer on IPv6, instructions on how to set up IPv6 through your ISP, a list of ISPs that support IPv6 natively, and a discussion forum to share tips and troubleshooting. If you access the site via IPv6 you get instant access to "the goods".
[snip]
More on http://www.ipv6porn.com/
Crap. Now people are going to start asking if the ipv6 platform does ipv6 forwarding in hardware or software. :| DJ Petri Helenius wrote:
Gadi Evron wrote:
I am unsure what to say.
The idea is quite old and I'm happy to see that what started and continued as a joke is actually being tried out to see if it would really work. Hope they get it up and running soon.
Pete
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:14:34 +0200 From: Lubomir Kundrak <lkundrak@redhat.com> To: funsec <funsec@linuxbox.org> Subject: [funsec] The "Great IPv6 experiment"
This is kind of... interesting.
[snip]
We're taking 10 gigabytes of the most popular "adult entertainment" videos from one of the largest subscription websites on the internet, and giving away access to anyone who can connect to it via IPv6. No advertising, no subscriptions, no registration. If you access the site via IPv4, you get a primer on IPv6, instructions on how to set up IPv6 through your ISP, a list of ISPs that support IPv6 natively, and a discussion forum to share tips and troubleshooting. If you access the site via IPv6 you get instant access to "the goods".
[snip]
More on http://www.ipv6porn.com/
Thus spake "Deepak Jain" <deepak@ai.net>
Crap. Now people are going to start asking if the ipv6 platform does ipv6 forwarding in hardware or software. :|
We'll all have to answer "hard"ware of course, since admitting we forward the Experiment's traffic in "soft"ware would be rather embarassing, right? S P.S. I'm writing this from behind a monopoly ISP who deliberately blocks all proto 41 traffic, and thus 6to4, so I have no idea what content, if any, the Experiment is actually providing... Anyone want to give me a Teredo relay for "research" purposes? :) Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
Stephen Sprunk wrote: [..]
P.S. I'm writing this from behind a monopoly ISP who deliberately blocks all proto 41 traffic, and thus 6to4, so I have no idea what content, if any, the Experiment is actually providing... Anyone want to give me a Teredo relay for "research" purposes? :)
As the site (http://www.ipv6porn.com) states: 8<---------------------------------- If you're here for the free content, it's not here! We're not ready for the world to know about this experiment yet, so don't go submitting this to Slashdot or Digg until the actual site is up. ---------------------------------->8 And also: 8<---------------------------------- When will all this start? We anticipate beginning this experiment in the May-June timeframe. ---------------------------------->8 But it is September and not there yet, at least I didn't see the page updated nor any extra traffic. It would be great if this one: http://www.sixxs.net/misc/traffic/ would shoot over the 100mbit for prolonged periods of time. and that the one at AMS-IX: http://www.ams-ix.net/technical/stats/sflow_stats.html actually had a 1.0% or so share of IPv6 traffic.... As for your proto-41 problem, just go to http://www.sixxs.net and (ab)use AICCU which supports AYIYA, which is a dynamic-IP able protocol sending it's packets over UDP. I hope to be releasing the DNS aware version somewhere in October and then there will be really no more blocking possible even in freaky hotels ;) There are a few PoPs in the US already, though mostly on the east coast, if anyone can sponsor up a PoP in the west coast or for that matter actually any other region, that would be great in helping getting IPv6 deployment further. The bigger experiment is actually proving to yourself that your infrastructure is IPv6 capable and that you have the possibility to provide IPv6 to your own customers who might want it. Ping me directly for more info or just check the site. Greets, Jeroen
On Sep 5, 2007, at 4:07 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
As the site (http://www.ipv6porn.com) states:
8<---------------------------------- If you're here for the free content, it's not here! We're not ready for the world to know about this experiment yet, so don't go submitting this to Slashdot or Digg until the actual site is up. ---------------------------------->8
And also: 8<---------------------------------- When will all this start?
We anticipate beginning this experiment in the May-June timeframe. ---------------------------------->8 But it is September and not there yet, at least I didn't see the page updated nor any extra traffic.
Kinda off-topic for nanog, but: We're running a bit behind. A whole bunch of people came forward with offers of free transit, equipment, and a bunch of other things, but for one reason or another most weren't able to deliver on them. Usually it was because everything was great until their legal department heard about it. Those of us working on the project strongly feel that if we end up saturating our own links during the course of the experiment, it's going to invalidate a lot of our findings. Or at least call into question their accuracy. So, I'm talking with some others right now who have offered some help with bandwidth and other resources, but it's pushed our timetable back quite a bit. Thanks for reminding me to update the page though! :) -- Kevin
On 5/09/2007, at 8:52 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
P.S. I'm writing this from behind a monopoly ISP who deliberately blocks all proto 41 traffic, and thus 6to4, so I have no idea what content, if any, the Experiment is actually providing... Anyone want to give me a Teredo relay for "research" purposes? :)
Luckily for you, the relay that is used isn't something you get to decide - the far end (in this case, the IPv6 experiment's servers) chose the relay based on their best path to 2001::/32. The bit you can chose is a Teredo /server/ - luckily, there are several living servers, open to the world. They should all work just fine for you, unless someone is blocking the Teredo port. Unluckily, there's no content there. "Yet" - it's been "yet" for about a year now. -- Nathan Ward
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