Re: MAE-West is up again (Sun's & Alphas)
Tim, NSF never paid any of Gordon's expenses for anything, to my knowledge at least. He made an important contribution to the NATO meeting in Moscow in 1994 by delivering a well-thought-out and constructive charge to the audience about how a bit more cooperation on everybody's part could improve Internet service for large numbers of Russians. I, as co-chair of the event, was quite satisfied that I had spent NATO's money wisely by inviting him to participate. We even fed him (along with the other participants) on NATO's tab. Even with all that, it was still a good deal for NATO (he drank much less vodka than most, BTW...). At 2:18 AM 5/26/96, Gordon Cook wrote:
tim asks who is paying for my trip to Russia. How about me for incidentals and a total of $13.50 for tax on a delta frequent flyer ticket? NSF has paid for NONE of my trips. In Sept october 1994 NATO paid for a $620 airplane ticket and I paid $120 to extend it and for all other expenses. ...
On Sat, 25 May 1996, Tim Bass wrote: ...
Side note to Gordon Cook based on his contribution earlier:
Gordon, just a little barb to you, please do not take it personally, but.. "is your current trip to Russia also funded by the NSF similar to your previous trip"? ( inquiring minds want to know ;-)
Whoops! There I go again, standing in the corner, just losing my religion.... Oh well, I said too much, I haven't said enought....
Go stand in the corner, Tim! --Steve G. ____________________________________________ Steve Goldstein, National Science Foundation +1(703)306-1949 Ext. 1119 "Let's not procrastinate until next week!"
delivering a well-thought-out and constructive charge to the audience about how a bit more cooperation on everybody's part could improve Internet service for large numbers of Russians.
While this was and unfortunately still is an amazingly worthwhile goal, I can not help but wonder which is more futile, trying to get the Russian factions to cooperate or explaining something to Tim Bass. Certainly the former is vastly more worthwhile. And, while I applaud NATO for sending Gordon to this particular windmill, and strongly encourage them and others to keep tilting at it (have had a bash at it once or twice myself), what does this have to do with North American network operations? More Tim Bass distraction action? # from my .procmailrc : * ^From: (Tim Bass|Jim Fleming|Eugene Kashpureff) /dev/null randy
Randy, It feels great to be piped into your bit bucket. As least /dev/null has the wisdom not to burn off into a flame because someone has an opinion or idea he is not interested in reading. If you wish to continue to beat me up, I am willing to let you take your frustrations out on me. Randy, please feel free to do it privately, however. But, as you stated indirectly, it is easier to bring "peace to the world" than to convince me to accept and act on the emotional arguments of irrational, mob-o-cratic (sic) minds. Now, let's continue the 'very important' topic of 'why is is so difficult' to have redundant RSs in the NAPS. Let's see, we can flame Merit.... or those operational in an experimental configuration... or we can flame Tim Bass, the Clueless, Idiot, Moronic, AntiChrist (no, can't have that honor, that belongs to S. D. the 666 :-) Tim PS: Apologies for responding to Randy's personal attack in public.
Steve, Thanks for taking the time to help set the record straight. I did not intend to pull the discussion off the Router Server single-thread crash operational experimental discussion..... I just wanted to have some fun at Gordon's expense, in return for the fun times when he endearingly called my CIDRD-WG posts "Quixotic" (and he was right, BTW ;-) Plus, I sure envy Gordon spending time in beautiful Russia this time of year. Which leads to my next question..... Anyone know when there will be an IETF meeting in that part of the world? That would be a very, very interesting and enlightening IETF to participate, don't you think? Best Regards, Tim ----- Really don't mind if you sit this one out, My words but a whisper in deafness they shout. Can't make you feel, but I can make you think...... ( continuation censored by your Honorable Exon ... ) Ian Anderson
On Sun, 26 May 1996, Tim Bass wrote:
Anyone know when there will be an IETF meeting in that part of the world? That would be a very, very interesting and enlightening IETF to participate, don't you think?
Tim, this topic is best hashed elsewhere, not on NANOG. Also, could everyone please not include my NOC in responses to this thread? (noc@noc.ns.itd.umich.edu) They have enough to do without having to read NANOG mail. Thanks. -dorian
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