Re: Deaggregating for emergency purposes
On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 10:16:41PM +0000, bmanning@karoshi.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 bmanning@karoshi.com wrote:
Typical response: You're not our customer, who are you? I'm Omachonu Ogali with XYZ Networks, and I'd like to speak to a network engineer regarding a routing problem. Hum. I take ~4 calls each day for things that are some other ISPs problem. Folks are -politely- told that the issues are either with their ISP or someone upstream of their ISP. When they get pushy, I offer them a service contract. 99.999% (hey Sean, there are your five 9's!) of them then choose to work with thier ISPs. I suspect that you have more than enough clue to never have to give me a call, but if you do, be prepared to be re-directed... :)
I hope you pay better attention on the phone then you do on lists. :)
The point was calling up the upstream of the AS who is generating bogus routes. The upstream of the caller is not at all involved.
But the upstream of the caller is involved. They passed the route(s) on, no?
--bill
Not necessarily, I could be the victim of a leak calling up an ISP to report it. Or some bored person connected to route-server.* constantly checking prefixes. -- Omachonu Ogali missnglnk@informationwave.net http://www.informationwave.net
The point was calling up the upstream of the AS who is generating bogus routes. The upstream of the caller is not at all involved.
But the upstream of the caller is involved. They passed the route(s) on, no?
--bill
Not necessarily, I could be the victim of a leak calling up an ISP to report it. Or some bored person connected to route-server.* constantly checking prefixes.
you either generated the bogus route yourself or you heard it from one of your direct neighbors. there is no other way for you to hear the route. Now you can -look- for what might be bogons (from your perspective) in other places in the net (route-server.*) or some random LG. But just because a route is there does not mean it shows up on your border. And routes that show up in those places are "nominally" interesting only from the perspective of "...are my routes propogating..." If there IS a legit.bogon that shows up on your border, then the -only- people who can do anything about it are: ) yourself. * ) your peer. (*) or you can contract with me at the usual and customary rates to config your routers for you. It may take both of you to provide the types of "corrective lenses) to give you the view you think you want, but it is an affrontery to "jump over" your providers to pester other ISPs that you have no business pestering. The routes they exchange among themselves is their business.
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