The following is from Computer Reseller News, 720 dated 1/20/97, page 7: "Vars Concerned over IP Payment Plan", by Sam Masud, Washington ... 8< snip "The registry would have ISP's pay annual fees between $2,000 and $20,000, depending on the amount of IP space bought. Web site owvers would be slapped with a one-time fee of $2,500 to $10,000.. Network Solutions Inc., a vendor charged with allocating Internet addresses through a division called InterNIC, said the registry proposal is up for comment but could be implemented within three to six months following discussion." ... I did NOT make this up or base it on unsubstantiated rumor. ---------- From: Steve Kann <stevek@SteveK.COM> To: NetSurfer <netsurf@pixi.com> Subject: Re: Domain Rant. Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 7:36 AM NetSurfer writes:
If you think $50 is bad, just wait and see if the $20,000/year/domain
goes
through...
Please stop spreading vicous unsubstantiated rumors, Mr. NetSurfer. No one has proposed any "$20,000/year/domain" charges.
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On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, NetSurfer wrote:
The following is from Computer Reseller News, 720 dated 1/20/97, page 7:
I did NOT make this up
No, you didn't make it up, the CRN reporter did.
or base it on unsubstantiated rumor.
However, you *DID* base your comments on unsubstantiated rumor. That means that you didn't take time to check out the true facts of the situation. Those facts are available at http://www.arin.net and if you haven't read any of the materials in the Recommended Reading section it would be a good idea to go through some of these for further background information, in particular RFC2050. Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-250-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com
NetSurfer writes:
If you think $50 is bad, just wait and see if the $20,000/year/domain
goes
through...
In a private e-mail message, I replied:
Please stop spreading vicous unsubstantiated rumors, Mr. NetSurfer. No one has proposed any "$20,000/year/domain" charges.
NetSurfer writes:
The following is from Computer Reseller News, 720 dated 1/20/97, page 7:
"Vars Concerned over IP Payment Plan", by Sam Masud, Washington
... 8< snip "The registry would have ISP's pay annual fees between $2,000 and $20,000, depending on the amount of IP space bought. Web site owvers would be slapped with a one-time fee of $2,500 to $10,000.. Network Solutions Inc., a vendor charged with allocating Internet addresses through a division called InterNIC, said the registry proposal is up for comment but could be implemented within three to six months following discussion." ...
I did NOT make this up or base it on unsubstantiated rumor.
As I said in my private reply to you, no one has proposed any $20,000/year/domain charges. The article that you have quoted, while itself a misrepresentation of the ARIN proposal, has nothing at all to do with domain names, the subject that prompted your original message. Whether your intention was to incite fear, or if you simply do not understand the distinction between domain names and IP address blocks, your message was unsubstantiated nonetheless. Also, I should have mentioned this in my original reply to you, but It was no accident that my reply to you was private, and not addressed to nanog. This is not a nanog issue, as it has no bearing on North American Network Operations. If you wish to discuss this topic, feel free to join the mailing list specifically devoted to this, naipr@internic.net. Subscription instructions should be available at the ARIN website, http://www.arin.net/, but I think that the standard practice of sending a message to "naipr-request@lists.internic.net" with the word "subscribe" in the body should suffice. -SteveK
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Fixed - thanks!
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"NetSurfer" writes:
The following is from Computer Reseller News, 720 dated 1/20/97, page 7:
"Vars Concerned over IP Payment Plan", by Sam Masud, Washington
... 8< snip "The registry would have ISP's pay annual fees between $2,000 and $20,000, depending on the amount of IP space bought. Web site owvers would be slapped with a one-time fee of $2,500 to $10,000..
[...]
I did NOT make this up or base it on unsubstantiated rumor.
'fraid you did. You seem to be confusing DOMAIN NAMES with NETWORK NUMBERS. Perry
---------- From: Steve Kann <stevek@SteveK.COM> To: NetSurfer <netsurf@pixi.com> Subject: Re: Domain Rant. Date: Thursday, March 20, 1997 7:36 AM
NetSurfer writes:
If you think $50 is bad, just wait and see if the $20,000/year/domain
goes
through...
Please stop spreading vicous unsubstantiated rumors, Mr. NetSurfer. No one has proposed any "$20,000/year/domain" charges.
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BTW: It is customary to prefix signatures with the string "\n-- \n", such that mail user agents can skip over them. Unless, of course, that cool banner is part of your content. ----- 8< snip
Fixed - thanks!
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