The animations from Tina Wong's "Making Sense of BGP" talk at NANOG-30 this morning are available at: http://www.packetdesign.com/technology/presentations/nanog-30/index.htm The animations are in SVG (a W3C graphics standard) and should be viewable in any web browser but you'll probably have to download an SVG plugin first (there's a link to Adobe's free plugin at the top of the web page). If you play with the stuff, we'd welcome coments, suggestions, whatever. Thanks. - Tina, Cengiz & Van