One item that is currently before the ARIN Advisory Council is a suggestion that we publish a map of all currently allocated IP space and keep that map up to date. If we do this then I think it solves this problem if people keep verifying their filters against the map or if they generate their filters based on the map.
You mean like ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/ipv4-address-space ???? One which may be usefull is registering the 'unassigned' IANA blocks in the IRR with a special AS number (e.g. AS0 or AS65535) so people can use the RtConfig tools to create filters by exception (e.g. NOT AS0) But there is already so much junk like 0.0.0.0/1 in there already, I hesitate doing it. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation
On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 05:26:10PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
One item that is currently before the ARIN Advisory Council is a suggestion that we publish a map of all currently allocated IP space and keep that map up to date. If we do this then I think it solves this problem if people keep verifying their filters against the map or if they generate their filters based on the map.
You mean like ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/ipv4-address-space
No, actually, he doesn't (probably) mean exactly that... the concept is good, but tghe granularity too coarse. Excellent resource for historical research, though; thanks for the pointer. (And why, exactly, does DISA need _6_ Class A's? :-)
One which may be usefull is registering the 'unassigned' IANA blocks in the IRR with a special AS number (e.g. AS0 or AS65535) so people can use the RtConfig tools to create filters by exception (e.g. NOT AS0) But there is already so much junk like 0.0.0.0/1 in there already, I hesitate doing it.
I'm not enough of a BGPgeek to know for sure, but that sounds like an excellent idea to me, and 0 is the one I'd pick, I think. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592 Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com
On Thu, 14 May 1998, Sean Donelan wrote:
One item that is currently before the ARIN Advisory Council is a suggestion that we publish a map of all currently allocated IP space and keep that map up to date.
You mean like ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/ipv4-address-space ????
Sort of, but more detailled and including sub-allocations and accessible via the whois protocol. For instance, the IANA list shows 61/8 as allocated to APNIC but since they are a registry they are carving it up into smaller blocks. For filtering purposes, 3/8 and 61/8 are quite different.
One which may be usefull is registering the 'unassigned' IANA blocks in the IRR with a special AS number (e.g. AS0 or AS65535) so people can use the RtConfig tools to create filters by exception (e.g. NOT AS0) But there is already so much junk like 0.0.0.0/1 in there already, I hesitate doing it.
If ARIN sets up their own database then it should be possible to make it usable by RtConfig tools if there is a demand for that. -- Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting Memra Communications Inc. - E-mail: michael@memra.com http://www.memra.com - *check out the new name & new website*
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One item that is currently before the ARIN Advisory Council is a suggestion that we publish a map of all currently allocated IP space and keep that map up to date. If we do this then I think it solves this
"keep that map up to date" is the crux of this issue though.
You mean like
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/ipv4-address-space
Perhaps a little more detailed that this. As well, how do I know when this list was last updated?
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Jay R. Ashworth
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Michael Dillon
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Scott Weeks
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Sean Donelan