Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN
Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft). Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves, it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas." http://www.idg.net/ic_386962_1793_1-1681.html Microsoft gamers (users of www.zone.com) quickly came up with various workarounds so they could continue playing. They were posting HOSTS.TXT files on various gamer bulletin boards overnight. In particular "Asheron's Call" had several problems during the last week, including banning a number of users and rolling back experience points due to a game bug.
Might I suggest that the Microsoft DNS server software has something to do with this problem ;) On 24 Jan 2001, Sean Donelan wrote: | | Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's | domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft). | | Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can | be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this | intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves, | it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned | Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas." | | http://www.idg.net/ic_386962_1793_1-1681.html | | Microsoft gamers (users of www.zone.com) quickly came up with various | workarounds so they could continue playing. They were posting HOSTS.TXT | files on various gamer bulletin boards overnight. In particular | "Asheron's Call" had several problems during the last week, including | banning a number of users and rolling back experience points due to | a game bug. | | | | | | | --- Rev. Chris Cappuccio -=- http://www.dqc.org/~chris/ "If you don't turn on to politics, politics will turn on you" - Ralph Nader
Might I suggest that the Microsoft DNS server software has something to do with this problem ;)
Perhaps every ISP should gang up on M$ and blackhole their /24 with the DNS servers in, so that they spend even longer trying to work out why it isn't working ;-) Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 09:04:51PM +0000, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Perhaps every ISP should gang up on M$ and blackhole their /24 with the DNS servers in, so that they spend even longer trying to work out why it isn't working ;-)
Would indeed be an appropriate LART for such a clueless DNS setup. But who pays for the addition helpdesk call load... *sigh* best regards, Daniel
Out of interest.. does anyone happen to know why rs.internic.net reports the following of microsoft.com? [rs.internic.net] Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BUT.LUNIX.SUCKS-BYBIRTH.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SE.FAIT.HAX0RIZER.PAR.TOUT.LE.ZOY.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.OWNED.BY.MAT.HACKSWARE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.N-AIME.BILL.QUE.QUAND.IL.N-EST.PAS.NU MICROSOFT.COM.MUST.STOP.TAKEDRUGS.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SOON.GOING.TO.THE.DEATHCORPORATION.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NOTHING.BUT.A.MONSTER.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UEBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.GOD.BUT.LINUX.SUCKS-FOREVER.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.BORING.COMPARED.TO.TEENEXTREME.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.AT.THE.MERCY.OF.DETRIMENT.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRES.COPYCAT.WANNABE.SUBVERSIVES.NET MICROSOFT.COM.HAS.NO.LINUXCLUE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.HACKED.BY.PSYKOJOKO.ON.A.ROOT-NETWORK.COM MICROSOFT.COM.HACKED.BY.HACKSWARE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.GUTS.NL MICROSOFT.COM.FAIT.VRAIMENT.DES.LOGICIELS.A.TROIS.FRANCS.DOUZE.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.ER.IKKE.NO.I.FORHOLD.TIL.LATHANS.NET MICROSOFT.COM.AINT.WORTH.SHIT.KLUGE.ORG MICROSOFT.COM -- Stephen J. Wilcox Internet Manager, Opal Telecom http://www.opaltelecom.co.uk/ Tel: 0161 222 2000 Fax: 0161 222 2008 On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Might I suggest that the Microsoft DNS server software has something to do with this problem ;)
Perhaps every ISP should gang up on M$ and blackhole their /24 with the DNS servers in, so that they spend even longer trying to work out why it isn't working ;-)
Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
It doesn't report it for microsoft.com, it reports the hostnames for .ARTISTICCHEESE.COM, .LINUXISGOD.COM, .ZOY.ORG and others. The query is a little loose so it pulls up all match hostnames also. aol.com is the same way. andy On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Out of interest.. does anyone happen to know why rs.internic.net reports the following of microsoft.com?
[rs.internic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information.
MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BUT.LUNIX.SUCKS-BYBIRTH.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SE.FAIT.HAX0RIZER.PAR.TOUT.LE.ZOY.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.OWNED.BY.MAT.HACKSWARE.COM
Out of interest.. does anyone happen to know why rs.internic.net reports the following of microsoft.com?
[rs.internic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SE.FAIT.HAX0RIZER.PAR.TOUT.LE.ZOY.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.OWNED.BY.MAT.HACKSWARE.COM
... Those are registered nameservers. WHOIS searches against all registered domain names, which includes zones and the servers that host them. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/
This comes up every few months on various mailing lists.
To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.
whois =microsoft.com All the others are various nameservers registered by people trying to be funny. -alex On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Out of interest.. does anyone happen to know why rs.internic.net reports the following of microsoft.com?
[rs.internic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information.
MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BUT.LUNIX.SUCKS-BYBIRTH.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SE.FAIT.HAX0RIZER.PAR.TOUT.LE.ZOY.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.OWNED.BY.MAT.HACKSWARE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.N-AIME.BILL.QUE.QUAND.IL.N-EST.PAS.NU MICROSOFT.COM.MUST.STOP.TAKEDRUGS.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SOON.GOING.TO.THE.DEATHCORPORATION.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NOTHING.BUT.A.MONSTER.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.NO.MATCH.FOR.THE.UEBER-GEEKS.AT.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.IS.GOD.BUT.LINUX.SUCKS-FOREVER.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.BORING.COMPARED.TO.TEENEXTREME.COM MICROSOFT.COM.IS.AT.THE.MERCY.OF.DETRIMENT.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRES.COPYCAT.WANNABE.SUBVERSIVES.NET MICROSOFT.COM.HAS.NO.LINUXCLUE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.HACKED.BY.PSYKOJOKO.ON.A.ROOT-NETWORK.COM MICROSOFT.COM.HACKED.BY.HACKSWARE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.GUTS.NL MICROSOFT.COM.FAIT.VRAIMENT.DES.LOGICIELS.A.TROIS.FRANCS.DOUZE.ORG MICROSOFT.COM.ER.IKKE.NO.I.FORHOLD.TIL.LATHANS.NET MICROSOFT.COM.AINT.WORTH.SHIT.KLUGE.ORG MICROSOFT.COM
-- Stephen J. Wilcox Internet Manager, Opal Telecom http://www.opaltelecom.co.uk/ Tel: 0161 222 2000 Fax: 0161 222 2008
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Might I suggest that the Microsoft DNS server software has something to do with this problem ;)
Perhaps every ISP should gang up on M$ and blackhole their /24 with the DNS servers in, so that they spend even longer trying to work out why it isn't working ;-)
Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Out of interest.. does anyone happen to know why rs.internic.net reports the following of microsoft.com?
When you do a search on microsoft.com, it turns up hostnames that include 'microsoft.com' - those are the domain names of hosts registered with Internic. That's all these are.
MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BUT.LUNIX.SUCKS-BYBIRTH.ARTISTICCHEESE.COM MICROSOFT.COM.SHOULD.GIVE.UP.BECAUSE.LINUXISGOD.COM
-- Steve Sobol, BOFH, President 888.480.4NET 866.DSL.EXPRESS 216.619.2NET North Shore Technologies Corporation http://NorthShoreTechnologies.net JustTheNet/JustTheNet EXPRESS DSL (ISP Services) http://JustThe.net mailto:sjsobol@NorthShoreTechnologies.net Proud resident of Cleveland, OH
Haha. The last line of the press release reads: "Microsoft, in Redmond, Washington, can be reached at at http://www.microsoft.com/." They need more keen reporters :) On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:40:15AM -0800, Sean Donelan wrote:
Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft).
Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves, it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas."
http://www.idg.net/ic_386962_1793_1-1681.html
Microsoft gamers (users of www.zone.com) quickly came up with various workarounds so they could continue playing. They were posting HOSTS.TXT files on various gamer bulletin boards overnight. In particular "Asheron's Call" had several problems during the last week, including banning a number of users and rolling back experience points due to a game bug.
If memory serves me right, Sean Donelan wrote:
Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft).
Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves, it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas."
Ironically, this article concludes with: Microsoft, in Redmond, Washington, can be reached at at [sic] http://www.microsoft.com/. Bruce.
What's with all the articles that say alot, but really tell us nothing? DNS is not rocket science. The root-servers and gtld-servers I checked all report the same set of NS records for microsoft.com: ;; ANSWER SECTION: microsoft.com. 2D IN NS DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET. microsoft.com. 2D IN NS DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET. microsoft.com. 2D IN NS DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET. microsoft.com. 2D IN NS DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET. 2D IN A 207.46.138.11 DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET. 2D IN A 207.46.138.12 DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET. 2D IN A 207.46.138.21 DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET. 2D IN A 207.46.138.20 These four systems are pingable, but don't seem to be answering DNS requests. So...are these NS records for microsoft.com incorrect (someone botched microsoft.com in the .com zone either by accident or malice)...or are they correct and microsoft can't figure out how to run their DNS servers? Either way, these addresses are Microsoft's (according to ARIN), so it would appear Microsoft can't come up with a backup plan of some sort when their DNS servers hit the fan, and they're spokespeople are basically feeding the press a load of crap and misdirection? Or maybe their DNS servers are under some sort of DoS attack flooding them with so many DNS requests that they just can't handle the load and they can't filter the attack because the source addresses are randomly forged and they can't tell the difference between real requests and DoS requests? Why bother writing crap news stories that really just say Microsoft is down, but don't say anything about the cause? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:11:19PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
If memory serves me right, Sean Donelan wrote:
Microsoft appears to be blaming ICANN for the failure with Microft's domain name servers (all located at the same place at Microsoft).
Microsoft has yet to pin down the cause of the DNS error. "It can be a system or human error, but somebody could also have done this intentionally," De Jonge said. "We don't manage the DNS ourselves,
s/ourselves,/ourselves, yet;/
it is a system controlled by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) with worldwide replicas."
s/$/ With the fast-growing acceptance and enthusiastic reception of Windows 2000 (tm), we expect that as deployments of this new Flagship Operating System (tm) continue to accelerate, we will be researching the administrative feasibility of managing the DNS ourselves, via the breakthrough Active Directory (tm) architecture built-in to Windows 2000 (tm). It is obvious that although ICANN apparently has had (and continues to have, as demonstrated by this incident) problems managing DNS, the unparalleled power, stability, and low Total Cost of Ownership (tm) features of Windows 2000 (tm) and its Active Directory (tm) component and the ease-of-administration that they bring can alleviate these issues once and for all. We already know that many technical experts of the highest qualifications have agreed that the benefits of Microsoft DNS (tm), powered by Active Directory (tm) on Windows 2000 (tm) will elevate this function to ever-higher levels of speed, ease-of-use, reliability, and most importantly, compatibility with the overwhelming majority of Windows (tm) computers, without question the most popular Operating System environment (tm) for our Global Computing Information Infrastructure (tm (tm)). /
Ironically, this article concludes with:
Microsoft, in Redmond, Washington, can be reached at at [sic] http://www.microsoft.com/.
-- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
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