This report has been generated at Fri Nov 14 21:48:00 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 07-11-03 127597 90282 08-11-03 127873 90220 09-11-03 127555 90261 10-11-03 127607 90361 11-11-03 127817 90325 12-11-03 127745 90342 13-11-03 127842 90301 14-11-03 127686 90402 AS Summary 16121 Number of ASes in routing system 6426 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1410 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS701 : ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 73534720 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS568 : SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 14Nov03 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 127709 90347 37362 29.3% All ASes AS4323 687 201 486 70.7% TW-COMM Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS701 1410 979 431 30.6% ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7018 1367 948 419 30.7% ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services AS7843 526 122 404 76.8% ADELPHIA-AS Adelphia Corp. AS6197 641 261 380 59.3% BATI-ATL BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS6198 611 253 358 58.6% BATI-MIA BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS209 880 536 344 39.1% ASN-QWEST Qwest AS22909 311 9 302 97.1% DNEO-OSP1 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS4355 386 101 285 73.8% ERMS-EARTHLNK EARTHLINK, INC AS22773 305 25 280 91.8% CCINET-2 Cox Communications Inc. Atlanta AS27364 338 72 266 78.7% ACS-INTERNET Armstrong Cable Services AS6347 349 85 264 75.6% DIAMOND SAVVIS Communications Corporation AS1221 955 693 262 27.4% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS1239 928 671 257 27.7% SPRINTLINK Sprint AS17676 278 35 243 87.4% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp. AS4134 363 125 238 65.6% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS25844 243 16 227 93.4% SKADDEN1 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS9583 275 81 194 70.5% SATYAMNET-AS Satyam Infoway Ltd., AS11305 229 38 191 83.4% INTERLAND-NET1 Interland Incorporated AS2386 397 214 183 46.1% INS-AS AT&T Data Communications Services AS4519 193 12 181 93.8% MAAS Maas Communications AS9498 210 32 178 84.8% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS6140 340 164 176 51.8% IMPSAT-USA ImpSat AS6327 203 27 176 86.7% SHAW Shaw Communications Inc. AS14654 175 2 173 98.9% WAYPORT Wayport AS2048 252 86 166 65.9% LANET-1 State of Louisiana AS7132 472 308 164 34.7% SBIS-AS SBC Internet Services - Southwest AS20115 584 424 160 27.4% CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC Charter Communications AS9929 192 36 156 81.2% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS15270 202 48 154 76.2% AS-PAETEC-NET PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. Total 14302 6604 7698 53.8% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 ANDARA-HSI Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 61.12.32.0/24 AS7545 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet Pty Ltd 61.12.34.0/24 AS7545 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet Pty Ltd 64.30.64.0/19 AS14900 USLEC-CORP-1 USLEC Corp. 66.41.192.0/18 AS13367 CCCH-AS3 Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc 69.8.128.0/17 AS7260 NORLIGHT Norlight Telecommunications 132.0.0.0/10 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 137.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 138.136.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 140.143.2.0/24 AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd 140.240.0.0/13 AS1 GNTY-1 Genuity 158.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.43.230.0/24 AS4738 SAARDNET-AS South Australian Academic Research and Development Network 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 192.83.16.0/20 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.32.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.64.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.96.0/22 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.100.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 PSCNI-AS National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.71.0/24 AS719 AS719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.136.79.0/24 AS719 AS719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.153.144.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.172.0.0/19 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.188.208.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALIN-AS Palin Aquisitions Inc. 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.80.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-CSTLNET-AS Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.192.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.240.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.98.8.0/21 AS3701 NERONET Oregon Joint Graduate Schools of Engineering 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCNET Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY-NET CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GROUPTLCOM GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MBNET-AS Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ATTCA-15290 AT&T Canada Telecom Services Company 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS-AS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 BCNET-AS University of British Columbia 199.79.32.0/20 AS3701 NERONET Oregon Joint Graduate Schools of Engineering 199.84.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.128.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NEXTLEVELINTERNET NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.16.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.80.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.0.180.0/24 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.3.158.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.3.159.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.4.252.0/22 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.4.255.0/24 AS4799 UNSPECIFIED Ji Tong Communications Co., Ltd. 202.70.240.0/20 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.74.32.0/19 AS9315 CWN-AS-AP Chomanan WorldNet Co., Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.122.76.0/24 AS17553 TIMELESS-AP System Integration provider 202.136.254.0/23 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.254.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.255.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.164.192.0/19 AS7599 IPXC-AS-AP IP Exchange 202.165.0.0/19 AS9443 INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications 202.165.0.0/20 AS9443 INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications 202.165.16.0/20 AS9443 INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications 202.179.64.0/24 AS7633 SOFTNET-AS-AP Software Technology Parks of India 202.179.65.0/24 AS7633 SOFTNET-AS-AP Software Technology Parks of India 202.179.66.0/24 AS7633 SOFTNET-AS-AP Software Technology Parks of India 202.179.67.0/24 AS7633 SOFTNET-AS-AP Software Technology Parks of India 202.179.68.0/24 AS7633 SOFTNET-AS-AP Software Technology Parks of India 202.189.234.0/23 AS9658 ETPI-IDS-AS-AP Eastern Telecoms Phils., Inc. 203.10.17.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.10.18.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.10.19.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.10.21.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.10.22.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.10.23.0/24 AS9266 VIPER-AU-AP Vipernet 203.32.4.0/23 AS7617 APNIC-AS-2-BLOCK Asia Pacific Network Information Centre 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.76.128.0/24 AS9729 IS-AP iAdvantage Limited 203.76.224.0/24 AS9549 COMDEK-ISP-AS-AP Comdek ISP 203.86.2.0/23 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 203.129.126.0/24 AS7473 SINGTEL-AS-AP Singapore Telecom 203.129.127.0/24 AS7473 SINGTEL-AS-AP Singapore Telecom 203.132.95.0/24 AS9787 CONCEPT-AU-AP Concept Networks 203.132.97.0/24 AS7652 VIANET-AS-AP Vianet Communications Pty Ltd 203.132.99.0/24 AS7657 TIG-US-PAS-AP The Internet Group Limited 203.132.102.0/24 AS9398 ARACHNET-AS-AP Arachnet 203.132.103.0/24 AS9398 ARACHNET-AS-AP Arachnet 203.132.104.0/24 AS9398 ARACHNET-AS-AP Arachnet 203.132.105.0/24 AS9398 ARACHNET-AS-AP Arachnet 203.132.106.0/24 AS9398 ARACHNET-AS-AP Arachnet 203.132.107.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.108.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.109.0/24 AS10141 CALOUNDRA-AS-AP Caloundra.net 203.132.110.0/24 AS7598 ALPHALINK-AS-AP Alphalink Pty Limited - Melbourne, Australia 203.132.111.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.112.0/24 AS10236 FOXGOLD-NET-AU-AP FOXGOLD COMMUNICATIONS 203.132.118.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.122.0/24 AS4802 WANTREE-AS-AP Wantree Development 203.132.123.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.124.0/24 AS18065 CENTRALDATA-WA Central Data Pty Ltd. 203.132.125.0/24 AS4817 TECHEX1-AS-AP Techex Primary Netblock 203.135.99.0/24 AS2687 IBM-MMD-AS IBM 203.135.224.0/19 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 204.19.224.0/19 AS816 UUNET-AS4 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 204.29.189.0/24 AS3956 TX-METRO Texas Metronet 204.89.225.0/24 AS2495 KANREN Kansas Research and Education Network 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLABS-ASN TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS10588 ICSNET Intelligent Computer Solutions, Inc 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.41.32.0/19 AS14824 NEWSOUTH NewSouth Communications Corp. 206.81.187.0/24 AS19194 JOVITA Sentris Network LLC 206.82.64.0/18 AS7029 ALLTELNET Alltel Information Services, Inc. 206.108.34.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 206.108.35.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQ-AS Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ATTCA-15290 AT&T Canada Telecom Services Company 206.251.69.0/24 AS27429 TIL Telesat International Ltd. 207.47.39.0/24 AS816 UUNET-AS4 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 207.162.192.0/19 AS4589 EASYNET Easynet Group Plc 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETPA NuNet Inc 208.81.187.0/24 AS19194 JOVITA Sentris Network LLC 208.104.103.0/24 AS1239 SPRINTLINK Sprint 209.151.128.0/19 AS816 UUNET-AS4 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 209.169.219.0/24 AS189 GENUITY-AS189 Genuity 209.169.223.0/24 AS189 GENUITY-AS189 Genuity 209.172.0.0/18 AS7770 TRITON Triton Technologies, Inc. 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.50.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.51.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.55.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.56.0/24 AS10629 INTERPAC Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.222.137.0/24 AS27429 TIL Telesat International Ltd. 209.240.96.0/19 AS10815 KCNET KCnet, Inc. 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM SISCOM, Inc 209.251.64.0/19 AS10266 NETWAY-AS MDC, Inc. 210.213.0.0/19 AS6453 TELEGLOBE-AS Teleglobe Inc 216.18.224.0/21 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.224.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.18.228.0/22 AS11458 IMBRIS IMBRIS, INC. 216.47.32.0/19 AS11304 SPLUS Solutions Plus Inc. 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services 218.211.0.0/16 AS4788 TMNET-AS-AP TMnet, Telekom Malaysia 222.28.0.0/14 AS4538 ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report 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So anyway, was discussing the cidr report at the last nanog.. I was pointing out that deaggregation is discouraged by the naming and shaming and then someone else pointed out that this list has scarcely altered in months. So, what can we do as the operator community if this report isnt having the desired effect? Steve On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, cidr-report@potaroo.net wrote:
This report has been generated at Fri Nov 14 21:48:00 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 07-11-03 127597 90282 08-11-03 127873 90220 09-11-03 127555 90261 10-11-03 127607 90361 11-11-03 127817 90325 12-11-03 127745 90342 13-11-03 127842 90301 14-11-03 127686 90402
AS Summary 16121 Number of ASes in routing system 6426 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1410 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS701 : ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 73534720 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS568 : SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA
Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').
--- 14Nov03 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description
Table 127709 90347 37362 29.3% All ASes
AS4323 687 201 486 70.7% TW-COMM Time Warner Communications, Inc. AS701 1410 979 431 30.6% ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS7018 1367 948 419 30.7% ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services AS7843 526 122 404 76.8% ADELPHIA-AS Adelphia Corp. AS6197 641 261 380 59.3% BATI-ATL BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS6198 611 253 358 58.6% BATI-MIA BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS209 880 536 344 39.1% ASN-QWEST Qwest AS22909 311 9 302 97.1% DNEO-OSP1 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS4355 386 101 285 73.8% ERMS-EARTHLNK EARTHLINK, INC AS22773 305 25 280 91.8% CCINET-2 Cox Communications Inc. Atlanta AS27364 338 72 266 78.7% ACS-INTERNET Armstrong Cable Services AS6347 349 85 264 75.6% DIAMOND SAVVIS Communications Corporation AS1221 955 693 262 27.4% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS1239 928 671 257 27.7% SPRINTLINK Sprint AS17676 278 35 243 87.4% GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp. AS4134 363 125 238 65.6% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS25844 243 16 227 93.4% SKADDEN1 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS9583 275 81 194 70.5% SATYAMNET-AS Satyam Infoway Ltd., AS11305 229 38 191 83.4% INTERLAND-NET1 Interland Incorporated AS2386 397 214 183 46.1% INS-AS AT&T Data Communications Services AS4519 193 12 181 93.8% MAAS Maas Communications AS9498 210 32 178 84.8% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS6140 340 164 176 51.8% IMPSAT-USA ImpSat AS6327 203 27 176 86.7% SHAW Shaw Communications Inc. AS14654 175 2 173 98.9% WAYPORT Wayport AS2048 252 86 166 65.9% LANET-1 State of Louisiana AS7132 472 308 164 34.7% SBIS-AS SBC Internet Services - Southwest AS20115 584 424 160 27.4% CHARTER-NET-HKY-NC Charter Communications AS9929 192 36 156 81.2% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS15270 202 48 154 76.2% AS-PAETEC-NET PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc.
Total 14302 6604 7698 53.8% Top 30 total
Possible Bogus Routes
24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 ANDARA-HSI Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 61.12.32.0/24 AS7545 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet Pty Ltd 61.12.34.0/24 AS7545 TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet Pty Ltd 64.30.64.0/19 AS14900 USLEC-CORP-1 USLEC Corp. 66.41.192.0/18 AS13367 CCCH-AS3 Comcast Cable Communications Holdings, Inc 69.8.128.0/17 AS7260 NORLIGHT Norlight Telecommunications 132.0.0.0/10 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 137.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 138.136.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 140.143.2.0/24 AS1221 ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd 140.240.0.0/13 AS1 GNTY-1 Genuity 158.0.0.0/13 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.43.230.0/24 AS4738 SAARDNET-AS South Australian Academic Research and Development Network 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 192.83.16.0/20 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.32.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.64.0/19 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.96.0/22 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.83.100.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 PSCNI-AS National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATT-INTERNET4 AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.71.0/24 AS719 AS719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.136.79.0/24 AS719 AS719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.153.144.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.172.0.0/19 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.188.208.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALIN-AS Palin Aquisitions Inc. 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLATLANTIC-COM Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.80.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-CSTLNET-AS Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.192.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.97.240.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 198.98.8.0/21 AS3701 NERONET Oregon Joint Graduate Schools of Engineering 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCNET Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY-NET CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GROUPTLCOM GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 ASN852 Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MBNET-AS Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INTERHOP Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ATTCA-15290 AT&T Canada Telecom Services Company 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASKTEL SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS-AS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 BCNET-AS University of British Columbia 199.79.32.0/20 AS3701 NERONET Oregon Joint Graduate Schools of Engineering 199.84.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.128.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.136.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 ITSDN-U7 DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DLA-ASNBLOCK-AS DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS1913 DLA4 Defense Logistics Agency 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 CENTAF-SWA AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NEXTLEVELINTERNET NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.0.0/18 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.16.0/20 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.123.80.0/21 AS568 SUMNET-AS DISO-UNRRA 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST-AS IQuest Internet 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 ALTERNET-AS UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.0.180.0/24 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.3.158.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.3.159.0/24 AS17557 PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom 202.4.252.0/22 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.4.255.0/24 AS4799 UNSPECIFIED Ji Tong Communications Co., Ltd. 202.70.240.0/20 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.74.32.0/19 AS9315 CWN-AS-AP Chomanan WorldNet Co., Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.122.76.0/24 AS17553 TIMELESS-AP System Integration provider 202.136.254.0/23 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.254.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.136.255.0/24 AS4808 CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Province Network 202.164.192.0/19 AS7599 IPXC-AS-AP IP Exchange 202.165.0.0/19 AS9443 INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications 202.165.0.0/20 AS9443 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Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 7:16 AM:
So anyway, was discussing the cidr report at the last nanog.. I was pointing out that deaggregation is discouraged by the naming and shaming and then someone else pointed out that this list has scarcely altered in months.
So, what can we do as the operator community if this report isnt having the desired effect?
Stop accepting /24 type routes? -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 7:16 AM:
So anyway, was discussing the cidr report at the last nanog.. I was pointing out that deaggregation is discouraged by the naming and shaming and then someone else pointed out that this list has scarcely altered in months.
So, what can we do as the operator community if this report isnt having the desired effect?
Stop accepting /24 type routes?
Yeah maybe but what about where the RIRs have assigned independent /24 space.. or ISPs have subdelegated the IPs to a multihomed customer, was more thinking about where a bunch of routes originating from a single ASN can be aggregated rather than routing bloat in general. There are numerous such examples of people with eg a /19 announcing 32x /24 etc Steve
Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 12:54 PM:
Yeah maybe but what about where the RIRs have assigned independent /24 space.. or ISPs have subdelegated the IPs to a multihomed customer, was more thinking about where a bunch of routes originating from a single ASN can be aggregated rather than routing bloat in general. There are numerous such examples of people with eg a /19 announcing 32x /24 etc
So how do you deal with one but not with the other? -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 12:54 PM:
Yeah maybe but what about where the RIRs have assigned independent /24 space.. or ISPs have subdelegated the IPs to a multihomed customer, was more thinking about where a bunch of routes originating from a single ASN can be aggregated rather than routing bloat in general. There are numerous such examples of people with eg a /19 announcing 32x /24 etc
So how do you deal with one but not with the other?
I think your confusing my point - they're different questions, legitimate announcement of /24s by multihoming corporates is at least in principal okay. But I do regulary see people announcing consecutive prefixes all originating in the same AS and (from my view) having the same policy. Ok look heres one example, looks like these guys have a /20: Broad Band Networks / ESINET BBNESINET-48 (NET-12-5-48-0-1) 12.5.48.0 - 12.5.55.255 Broad Band Networks / ESINET BROAD-BA16-56 (NET-12-5-56-0-1) 12.5.56.0 - 12.5.59.255 BROAD BAND NETWORK SERVICES BROAD-BA927-60 (NET-12-5-60-0-1) 12.5.60.0 - 12.5.63.255 So why do I see this lot from them? 11 routes where only one would suffice (1100% more than needed for anyone mathematically challenged).. * 12.5.48.0/24 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.48.0/21 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.49.0/24 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.50.0/23 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.52.0/24 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.54.0/23 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.56.0/23 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.56.0/22 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.58.0/24 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.59.0/24 6453 1239 5778 12163 i * 12.5.60.0/22 6453 1239 5778 12163 i I'm sure these arent the worst offenders but they were the first I came across in my sh ip bgp ... So who's job is it to clean this up - I dont think proxy aggregation is a good idea as someone suggested, the only people in a position to fix this are the ISP themselves, their upstreams and their peers. Steve
Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 6:55 PM:
So who's job is it to clean this up - I dont think proxy aggregation is a good idea as someone suggested, the only people in a position to fix this are the ISP themselves, their upstreams and their peers.
Thank you for making my point for me. Nobody - other than the people actually announcing the routes (and their upstreams and peers) can resolve this problem. So self discipline is the only solution - and that looks like it isn't going to happen anytime soon. srs -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Stephen J. Wilcox writes on 11/14/2003 6:55 PM:
So who's job is it to clean this up - I dont think proxy aggregation is a good idea as someone suggested, the only people in a position to fix this are the ISP themselves, their upstreams and their peers.
Thank you for making my point for me.
Huh? Your one liner didnt make a point.. ?
Nobody - other than the people actually announcing the routes (and their upstreams and peers) can resolve this problem.
So self discipline is the only solution - and that looks like it isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Erm right but see, thats the problem they're announcing lots of routes they dont need to be and dont have self discipline, they need teaching and its not nobody, other than themselves they have their peers and their upstreams, and their upstreams in particular are going ot have the most control on dictating policy.. Steve
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