Iraqi Internet communications still working 3/21/03
The main Iraqi network connections are still functioning. Uruklink.net, Iraq2000.com, Baghdadlink.net, etc systems are responding. The public web servers appear to be very congested or non-responsive; but because I can reach other systems (mail, dns, etc) I suspect people are overloading the webservers. And to answer the question, no I don't know why the .IQ top-level domain is registered in Richardson Texas, nor do I know why the official state provider uses .NET and .COM instead of .iq. Since either the Iraqi government or the US government could shutdown the relatively limited external links from Iraq; I'm guessing both governments have decided its worth leaving the Internet links in place. Or its not worth the hassle of trying to shut them down.
And to answer the question, no I don't know why the .IQ top-level domain is registered in Richardson Texas, nor do I know why the official state provider uses .NET and .COM instead of .iq.
That is who the IANA delegation was made to: The SO for the .IQ delegation is (as of 13 Oct '02) Alani Corp. c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Administrative Contact: Saud Alani Alani Corporation c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: alani@mynet.net Voice: +964 1 556 4753 Fax: +1 972 644 8609 Technical Contact: Bayan Elashi InfoCom Corporation 630 International Parkway Suit 100 Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: bayan@infocomusa.com Voice: +1 972 644 5363 Fax: +1 972 644 8609 There is no URL for registration services. I wrote alani@mynet.net, bayan@infocomusa.com on 06.02.03, asking about registration (I'm an ICANN accredited registrar, whoop-de-doo, looking at ccTLDs, but mostly as a co-author of the EPP spec and as an implementor looking for guinea pigs er field trials). I've had better luck with the .IR registry. The operator and I both were at Berkeley, doing maths. So, the long and the short of "why any provider uses something other than the .IQ namespace" is -- see [1], effectivally a denial of service attack by the sodding SO and operator -- though it is hyperbole to call slacking off for months "an attack".
Since either the Iraqi government or the US government could shutdown the
Aside, the namespace management doesn't require addrs to exist, be allocated, or even wires, everything could be in London, or Zurich. Anyway, some good writing has been coming out of Bagdad for several months, the usual mechanism is dialtone to an external isp, and then, they are as close to you as I am. Anyone interested in getting the .IQ registry operational, so it can be transfered to a _responsible_ sponsoring org with a non-lame operator after the current moment of scheduled down-time is transited? If so, drop me a note. Eric [1] http://www.icann.org/general/pn-report-11feb00.htm
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
And to answer the question, no I don't know why the .IQ top-level domain is registered in Richardson Texas, nor do I know why the official state provider uses .NET and .COM instead of .iq.
That is who the IANA delegation was made to:
The SO for the .IQ delegation is (as of 13 Oct '02)
If I remember this correctly, the cc delegations are split into admin and zone, many ccTLD zones being managed by "western" ISPs but their admin stays with their respective country. So you need to write to Saddam to get your .iq registry working, you might want to hold that thought a few days..
Alani Corp. c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States
Administrative Contact: Saud Alani Alani Corporation c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: alani@mynet.net Voice: +964 1 556 4753 Fax: +1 972 644 8609
Technical Contact: Bayan Elashi InfoCom Corporation 630 International Parkway Suit 100 Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: bayan@infocomusa.com Voice: +1 972 644 5363 Fax: +1 972 644 8609
There is no URL for registration services.
I wrote alani@mynet.net, bayan@infocomusa.com on 06.02.03, asking about registration (I'm an ICANN accredited registrar, whoop-de-doo, looking at ccTLDs, but mostly as a co-author of the EPP spec and as an implementor looking for guinea pigs er field trials).
I've had better luck with the .IR registry. The operator and I both were at Berkeley, doing maths.
So, the long and the short of "why any provider uses something other than the .IQ namespace" is -- see [1], effectivally a denial of service attack by the sodding SO and operator -- though it is hyperbole to call slacking off for months "an attack".
Since either the Iraqi government or the US government could shutdown the
Aside, the namespace management doesn't require addrs to exist, be allocated, or even wires, everything could be in London, or Zurich.
Anyway, some good writing has been coming out of Bagdad for several months, the usual mechanism is dialtone to an external isp, and then, they are as close to you as I am.
Anyone interested in getting the .IQ registry operational, so it can be transfered to a _responsible_ sponsoring org with a non-lame operator after the current moment of scheduled down-time is transited? If so, drop me a note.
Eric
If you want to check your memory, all you need to do is contact the leading registries setting up the (new) ccNSO (of ICANN). There was a liaison from ICANN, I met him at the Montevideo and MdR meetings in '01. The short answer is, it is fucked, indepedent of any flag waving by anyone. It differs only in detail from the general fucked-ness of the re-purposed ccTLDs only in the remarkable worthlessness of the sponsor and operator.
So you need to write to Saddam to get your .iq registry working, you might want to hold that thought a few days..
There really is no barrier to entry, is there? I mean, a complet moron can subscribe to nanog, and play flamer. Cheers, Eric
At 07:24 PM 21-03-03 -0500, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote: I think Infocom and the Elashi's have other problems right now: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Southwest/12/18/hamas.arrests/ http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/local/1064146 -Hank
And to answer the question, no I don't know why the .IQ top-level domain is registered in Richardson Texas, nor do I know why the official state provider uses .NET and .COM instead of .iq.
That is who the IANA delegation was made to:
The SO for the .IQ delegation is (as of 13 Oct '02)
Alani Corp. c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States
Administrative Contact: Saud Alani Alani Corporation c/o InfoCom 630 International Parkway Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: alani@mynet.net Voice: +964 1 556 4753 Fax: +1 972 644 8609
Technical Contact: Bayan Elashi InfoCom Corporation 630 International Parkway Suit 100 Richardson, Texas 75081 United States Email: bayan@infocomusa.com Voice: +1 972 644 5363 Fax: +1 972 644 8609
There is no URL for registration services.
I wrote alani@mynet.net, bayan@infocomusa.com on 06.02.03, asking about registration (I'm an ICANN accredited registrar, whoop-de-doo, looking at ccTLDs, but mostly as a co-author of the EPP spec and as an implementor looking for guinea pigs er field trials). ... Anyone interested in getting the .IQ registry operational, so it can be transfered to a _responsible_ sponsoring org with a non-lame operator after the current moment of scheduled down-time is transited? If so, drop me a note.
Eric
On 22 Mar 2003 at 19:28, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
I think Infocom and the Elashi's have other problems right now: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Southwest/12/18/hamas.arrests/ http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/local/1064146
Ha! I wish I'd read this thread last night. My old neighbors, the Holy Land Foundation. Grrr. Offhand I don't know what happened to the remainder of InfoCom. I'll have to poke around if I get the chance. Peter E. Fry
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
The main Iraqi network connections are still functioning. Uruklink.net, Iraq2000.com, Baghdadlink.net, etc systems are responding. The public web servers appear to be very congested or non-responsive; but because I can reach other systems (mail, dns, etc) I suspect people are overloading the webservers.
My DNS shows www.thosedomains to be in iana-reserved space and dns is hosted at european satellite base stations ?? Steve
And to answer the question, no I don't know why the .IQ top-level domain is registered in Richardson Texas, nor do I know why the official state provider uses .NET and .COM instead of .iq.
Since either the Iraqi government or the US government could shutdown the relatively limited external links from Iraq; I'm guessing both governments have decided its worth leaving the Internet links in place. Or its not worth the hassle of trying to shut them down.
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
The main Iraqi network connections are still functioning. Uruklink.net, Iraq2000.com, Baghdadlink.net, etc systems are responding. The public web servers appear to be very congested or non-responsive; but because I can reach other systems (mail, dns, etc) I suspect people are overloading the webservers.
My DNS shows www.thosedomains to be in iana-reserved space and dns is hosted at european satellite base stations ??
Interesting. My DNS still had the old DNS/IP answers cached. The servers are still at the original addresess. I DIGed abit and found the name servers are now returning different addresses. I'm guessing either the Iraqi state provider got tired of paying the satellite upstream to carrier the HTTP packets. At one point, a person told me over 40% of the hits on the Iraqi web servers were coming from US IP addresses. Or someone has hacked their name servers. I was also told the Iraqi state provider was running a old, vulnerable version on their name servers.
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
The main Iraqi network connections are still functioning. Uruklink.net, Iraq2000.com, Baghdadlink.net, etc systems are responding. The public web servers appear to be very congested or non-responsive; but because I can reach other systems (mail, dns, etc) I suspect people are overloading the webservers.
My DNS shows www.thosedomains to be in iana-reserved space and dns is hosted at european satellite base stations ??
That's pretty simple... They were allegated some adress space from their provider, which in this case would be the Satellite Feed Company in Europe/UK. That's why they've got European Adress Space. And the only host i've found now, was: nic1.Baghdadlink.net A 62.145.94.1 inetnum: 62.145.94.0 - 62.145.95.255 netname: LB-Transtrum descr: Transtrum sal country: LB admin-c: SN3704-RIPE tech-c: SN3704-RIPE tech-c: JS3277-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA notify: jsaade@transtrum.com mnt-by: AS13126-MNT changed: darren.frowen@sms-internet.net 20030225 source: RIPE ... and if you check the route to nic1. it seems as if they'r hosted in .iq 11 62.32.32.86 (62.32.32.86) 79.218 ms 78.814 ms 79.487 ms 12 * * * 13 62.145.94.1 (62.145.94.1) 639.456 ms 630.628 ms 627.752 ms Definitely looks like the other end of a satellite connection. I can't reach uruklink nor Iraq2000.com atm though. -- Johannes Catterwell, Darmstadt / Germany johannes at catterwell dot de To err is human, to forgive is just not my policy.
Since either the Iraqi government or the US government could shutdown the relatively limited external links from Iraq; I'm guessing both governments have decided its worth leaving the Internet links in place. Or its not worth the hassle of trying to shut them down.
I'm guessing the Iraqi Government have one or two other things on their mind! Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking neil@DOMINO.ORG
participants (7)
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Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
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Hank Nussbacher
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Johannes Catterwell
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neil@DOMINO.ORG
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Peter E. Fry
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Sean Donelan
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Stephen J. Wilcox