swmike@swm.pp.se wrote: Yes, GSRs are better at routing but they lack L2 capability and it's a very expensive (and lousy unless you have Engine3 cards) GE
plattform.
Steinar Haug On the other hand, 6500s can do both L2 and L3 rather well, including BGP.
Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good routing capabilities. Michel.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good routing capabilities.
Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does?
On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good routing capabilities.
Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does?
I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job. Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1628 407720 (x37720) | Si fractum Technology Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1628 407701 (x37701) | non sit, noli BBC Internet Operations | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk | id reficere BBC Technology, Maiden House, Vanwall Road, Maidenhead. SL6 4UB. UK
7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote:
On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good routing capabilities.
Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does?
I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job.
Simon
7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal.
Yep, I think from now on, we should make this a primary distinction between switch and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is a router, if horizontal, it is a switch. Works well for 7500/12000/5x00/6500. ;) -alex
6500-NEBS has also vertical boards ... Arnold On Monday, October 13, 2003 10:37 PM, Robert A. Hayden <rhayden@geek.net> wrote:
7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote:
On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote:
Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway?
Between
these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good routing capabilities.
Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does?
I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job.
Simon
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote:
I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job.
On Monday, October 13, 2003 10:37 PM, Robert A. Hayden <rhayden@geek.net> wrote:
7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal.
* arnold@nipper.de (Nipper, Arnold) [Mon 13 Oct 2003, 22:53 CEST]:
6500-NEBS has also vertical boards ...
Well, guess what? That's because the 7600 is a 6509-NEB chassis. Take a 6509, fill it with the most expensive versions of DFC, MSFC, Supervisor, switch fabric cards etc., fill it all up with memory, and the only difference with an OSR-7609 is the faceplace. Compare the pictures at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/6000hw/inst_aug/... and http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7600/hardware/osrout... or for the plain 7609 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7600/hardware/cis_76... (the text leading up to this image leads to Figure 1-3, which is incorrect, btw) So, yes, Simon was very much correct - differences between 65xx and 76xx (for equal values of xx) are initial configuration and the paint job. -- Niels.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote:
Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does?
I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job.
Whee! Even more of a reason not to buy one for routing :)
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