Funding for NAPs...
Out of curiosity...where does the money come from to keep exchange points like the MAEs alive? Is NSF or other government money involved? If so, what are the terms of the funding? // Matt Zimmerman Chief of System Management NetRail, Inc. // Work..........mdz@netrail.net | Play...gemini@alcor.netrail.net // (703) 524-4800 [voice] (703) 524-4802 [data] (703) 534-5033 [fax]
Out of curiosity...where does the money come from to keep exchange points like the MAEs alive? Is NSF or other government money involved? If so, what are the terms of the funding?
the MAE's are run by MFSDatanet (or have been to date, anyway). You pay them for your connection to their equipment, as well as a port charge, and in turn, they finance the exchange point. The NAP providers (Ameritech, Sprint, and PacBell) do get some government money. As with all government funding, there is red tape, such as providing services to R&E type stuff. MFSDatanet: http://www.mfsdatanet.com/mfs-datanet/ Americech NAP: http://www.ameritech.com/products/data/nap/ Pacbell NAP: http://www.pacbell.com/Products/NAP/ Sprint NAP: http://www.???.???/ other: you might www.ra.net Dave -- Dave Siegel President, RTD Systems & Networking, Inc. (520)623-9663 Systems Consultant -- Unix, LANs, WANs, Cisco dsiegel@rtd.com User Tracking & Acctg -- "Written by an ISP, http://www.rtd.com/ for an ISP."
We have a 486 DX4 100 with 40 megs of ram running FreeBSD and gated with a T1 to Sprint and a T1 to MCI. I have a few questions that someone may be able to answer. If my Sprint T1 goes down, how long will it take for route to drop out of the routing table? I have peering going with sprint and MCI and I have about 31,000 routes in my routing table. When I called up sprint and MCI they said they were not getting routes form me. How do I advertize my CIDR blocks to sprint and mci via BGP4? I have: 204.17.64.0/24 204.183.0.0/19 205.215.0.0/18 Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
In message <Pine.LNX.3.91.951014142731.10170A-100000@netrail.net>, Nathan Strat ton writes:
We have a 486 DX4 100 with 40 megs of ram running FreeBSD and gated with a T1 to Sprint and a T1 to MCI. I have a few questions that someone may be able to answer.
If my Sprint T1 goes down, how long will it take for route to drop out of the routing table?
If the interface is marked down, worst case is 15 seconds for gated to scan the interfaces. Since most interfaces don't get marked down when signal is lost, you are likely to end up waiting the BGP 180 second timeout (assuming you are running BGP). You can set BGP to send keepalives more often, though this can be a bad idea for other reasons. The holdtime is always 3 time the keepalive interval.
I have peering going with sprint and MCI and I have about 31,000 routes in my routing table. When I called up sprint and MCI they said they were not getting routes form me. How do I advertize my CIDR blocks to sprint and mci via BGP4?
I have:
204.17.64.0/24 204.183.0.0/19 205.215.0.0/18
near the top: aggregate 204.17.64.0 masklen 24 { proto <your-igp> { 204.17.64.0 masklen 24 refines; # assuming you have only subnets }; }; aggregate 204.183.0.0 masklen 19 { proto <your-igp> { 204.183.0.0 masklen 19 refines; # accept any subnmet into the aggr }; }; ... near the bottom: export proto bgp 3651 { proto aggregate { 204.17.64.0 masklen 24; 204.183.0.0 masklen 19; 205.215.0.0 masklen 18; }; };
Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the Wor ld! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
You might also want to check http://info.ra.net/div7.ra.naps.html It has the NSF Naps, the MAE's and a few more. -- --bill
Bill Shouldn't the URL be http://info.ra.net/div7/ra/naps.html paul On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 bmanning@ISI.EDU wrote:
You might also want to check http://info.ra.net/div7.ra.naps.html
It has the NSF Naps, the MAE's and a few more.
-- --bill
Even if you use the correct URL to get there, you get: 404 Not Found The requested URL /routing.arbiter/RA/rsstatistics.html was not found on this server.
Shouldn't the URL be
http://info.ra.net/div7/ra/naps.html
You might also want to check http://info.ra.net/div7.ra.naps.html
I have been using http://www.isi.edu:80/div7/ra/naps.html Brian
Bill
Shouldn't the URL be
http://info.ra.net/div7/ra/naps.html
paul
On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 bmanning@ISI.EDU wrote:
You might also want to check http://info.ra.net/div7.ra.naps.html
It has the NSF Naps, the MAE's and a few more.
-- --bill
D. Brian Kimmel Kimbro, Inc. Voice: (206) 937-8381 Seattle, WA USA http://www.kimbro.com briank@kimbro.com Washington Internet Provider List http://www.kimbro.com/providers.html
Yes. Thank you Paul.
Bill
Shouldn't the URL be
http://info.ra.net/div7/ra/naps.html
paul
On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 bmanning@ISI.EDU wrote:
You might also want to check http://info.ra.net/div7.ra.naps.html
It has the NSF Naps, the MAE's and a few more.
-- --bill
-- --bill
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bmanning＠ISI.EDU -
Curtis Villamizar -
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Dave Siegel -
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Matt Zimmerman -
Nathan Stratton -
Paul Love