-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@NEEBU.Net] Sent: 2. mája 2002 10:32 To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Large ISPs doing NAT?
Time to start thinking a little further down the line. What if the phone actually becomes an wireless IP gateway router? It routes packets from a PAN (personal area network) riding on top of Bluetooth or 802.11{a,b} to the 3G network for transit. NAT would certainly become very messy.
greeeeat and what if one of the devices behind that phone would also be a personal "ip gateway router" (or how you call that)... you could recursively iterate as deep as your mail size allows you to... hope this thread will not end in a router behind a router that serves as a router seving as a router to another router which has some other routers connected...
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### On Thu, 2 May 2002 10:42:01 +0200, "Daniska Tomas" <tomas@tronet.com> ### casually decided to expound upon <nanog@merit.edu> the following ### thoughts about "RE: Large ISPs doing NAT? ": DT> and what if one of the devices behind that phone would also be a personal DT> "ip gateway router" (or how you call that)... you could recursively iterate DT> as deep as your mail size allows you to... It's possible. Could it get ugly? Yes. Do we just want to shut our eyes and say "let's not go there."... well... maybe. I just don't think the solution is to say, "this can never happen... we must limit all handheld devices to sitting behind a NAT gateway." DT> hope this thread will not end in a router behind a router that serves as a DT> router seving as a router to another router which has some other routers DT> connected... God forbid! We might have a network on our hands! -- /*===================[ Jake Khuon <khuon@NEEBU.Net> ]======================+ | Packet Plumber, Network Engineers /| / [~ [~ |) | | --------------- | | for Effective Bandwidth Utilisation / |/ [_ [_ |) |_| N E T W O R K S | +=========================================================================*/
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