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programs. It could be a mix between the CCIE, Net+, etc. Because I know my Comp Engineering program doesn't touch on anything related at all to networking, and never even mentions the idea of security. So why not create a focused area for this? This is a two cent view from a graduate student.I have learned a lot of operational issues from this

list (though not this discussion :) ) . The curriculum you suggest is something called *body shaping* where you teach even history students to do latest stuff required by the companies.My view is a strong dose on mathematics + data structures + working knowledge in one language + (his field: networks,antenna or power electronics) is enough for exploring any field.I have seen many of my seniors and my peers who have shined with these basic qualities. The current trend is highly interdiciplinary where you have to apply skill from one field to another.hence,a base degree is required to do all those stuff. The market for networks ,database or any other field is varied.Hence,there is always a question of knowledge Vs skills.If have skill ,gaining knowledge is easy but the reverse is not true.All certifications comes under knowledge and basic core qualities mentioned above comes in skill set.I never view certifications as secondary but it is an added asset while the base is always strong mathematical skill.I dont think one can pass the final cisco certification without this basic qualification. I can learn something ,If you guys get back to your technical discussion.Really,I could not have comprehended many of your discussions without a base knowledge from my bachelor degree.So,get back to active discussion for us to learn. - Senthil ===== Ayyasamy Senthilkumar M.S.(Computer Networking) UMKC,MO. ----------------------------- An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field. --Niels Bohr. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com