Re: Interesting Announcements
Replying to myself is stupid, but... On Sat, 03 May 2003 05:45:53 -0700 miltonningis@hushmail.com wrote:
Also, perhaps Internap (AS10910) might explain the story behind seemingly stolen ASN 8143 and their many seemingly stolen IP blocks...
Perhaps Internap (AS10910) can ALSO explain the seemingly jacked IP space being announced by seemingly legitimately registered, but rogue AS27255... And if you traceroute from something that goes over their internap (say a verio customer, perhaps), it looks like they come from the SAME internap router, one port away... interesting.... (Perhaps AS8143 and AS27255 have something in common) Hello? Internap? Are you out there? Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
I have an even better idea that seems to have left everyones mind on this list. How about asking them directly instead of this ublic non operational content. Internap has an extremely responsive noc for example. They I'm sure would respond very quickly to your question and maybe even withdraw the announcement as it seems would be appropriate. If the noc's don't respond then maybe and only maybe nanog is the place but that is even questionable. ----- Original Message ----- From: <miltonningis@hushmail.com> To: <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Interesting Announcements
Replying to myself is stupid, but...
On Sat, 03 May 2003 05:45:53 -0700 miltonningis@hushmail.com wrote:
Also, perhaps Internap (AS10910) might explain the story behind seemingly stolen ASN 8143 and their many seemingly stolen IP blocks...
Perhaps Internap (AS10910) can ALSO explain the seemingly jacked IP space being announced by seemingly legitimately registered, but rogue AS27255...
And if you traceroute from something that goes over their internap (say a verio customer, perhaps), it looks like they come from the SAME internap router, one port away... interesting.... (Perhaps AS8143 and AS27255 have something in common) Hello? Internap? Are you out there?
Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2
Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
On Sat, 3 May 2003 12:15:48 -0700, "Scott Granados" <scott@wworks.net> wrote: | I have an even better idea that seems to have left everyones mind on | this list. How about asking them directly instead of this public non | operational content. In most cases that's just fine. I had already been in contact with Internap. In other cases it's really better for people here to see responses directly for themselves, rather than by means of forwards. There are some cases where concerns are serious enough for the question to be asked here, so that any lack of response will be equally visible. | Internap has an extremely responsive noc for example. They I'm sure | would respond very quickly to your question and maybe even withdraw | the announcement as it seems would be appropriate. I believe Internap has been aware of at least some of the concerns for a while now - it's up to them to say what they're doing about them. -- Richard Cox
On Sat, 3 May 2003 12:15:48 -0700, "Scott Granados" <scott@wworks.net>
wrote:
| I have an even better idea that seems to have left everyones mind on | this list. How about asking them directly instead of this public non | operational content.
In most cases that's just fine. I had already been in contact with Internap. In other cases it's really better for people here to see responses directly for themselves, rather than by means of forwards.
There are some cases where concerns are serious enough for the question to be asked here, so that any lack of response will be equally visible.
Unless the space is being announced by its actual owner and by someone else at the same time and this is causing unreachability or disruption its not serious enough to speak about in specifics. Just as specific or general cases of spam or other non operational topics aren't allowed on this list, this isn't appropriate either at least in specific. As Richard is fond of saying, try noc@ first. Although I think counter measures and proper verification would be good ontopic discussion.
| Internap has an extremely responsive noc for example. They I'm sure | would respond very quickly to your question and maybe even withdraw | the announcement as it seems would be appropriate.
I believe Internap has been aware of at least some of the concerns for a while now - it's up to them to say what they're doing about them.
-- Richard Cox
On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 12:15:48PM -0700, Scott Granados wrote:
I have an even better idea that seems to have left everyones mind on this list.
How about asking them directly instead of this ublic non operational content. [...] If the noc's don't respond then maybe and only maybe nanog is the place but that is even questionable.
FWIW, I've sent emails regarding this particular issue (re: AS 8143) to the address I was given by XO's NOC, abuse @ xo, as well as to an individual within the abuse department there, and I know that others have as well. I have not yet received a response. I will say, however, that they did appear to be responsive to another similar issue recently, but that (presumably hijacked) prefix was being advertised directly by 2828. http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=pnttavsippodidn5q20kmft69mkicnvc2d%4... -- "Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same..." (Sleater-Kinney - "Combat Rock")
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