How ISP's in ARIN region create automatic prefix-filters?
Hi, as I understand, ARIN whois database does not contain "route" objects, which are used for example in RIPE region for automatic BGP prefix filter generation. How does this work in ARIN region? I know that at least some ISP's operating in ARIN region use their own whois databases(for example rr.level3.net) which mirror content from other RIR databases, but are there other methods how they update their internal databases with records? regards, Martin
On 2013-06-12, at 13:38, Martin T <m4rtntns@gmail.com> wrote:
as I understand, ARIN whois database does not contain "route" objects, which are used for example in RIPE region for automatic BGP prefix filter generation.
whois.arin.net:43 is for assignment/allocation information. Does not use RPSL. rr.arin.net:43 is a routing registry that uses RPSL.
How does this work in ARIN region? I know that at least some ISP's operating in ARIN region use their own whois databases(for example rr.level3.net) which mirror content from other RIR databases, but are there other methods how they update their internal databases with records?
My general advice for anybody who cares to listen is to use the RIPE db for your objects if you are based in the ARIN region. It saves time if/when you come to peer with an organisation based in the RIPE region, and it makes your objects easy to find for anybody who wants to look for them. You can install a route in the RIPE db corresponding to number resources assigned elsewhere by authenticating against the RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT maintainer object, for which the plain-text password is "RPSL". Since your new route object will specify mnt-by MAINT-YOURS you will also need to authenticate against that (my favourite method is PGP). Joe mntner: RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT descr: This maintainer may be used to create objects to represent descr: routing policy in the RIPE Database for number resources not descr: allocated or assigned from the RIPE NCC. admin-c: RD132-RIPE auth: MD5-PW # Filtered remarks: ******************************************************* remarks: * The password for this object is 'RPSL', without the * remarks: * quotes. Do NOT use this maintainer as 'mnt-by'. * remarks: ******************************************************* mnt-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT referral-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered
Joe, ok, so in ARIN region there are two separate databases- "ARIN’s Registration database" and "ARIN’s Routing Registry database". If there is a database containing routing policy information in ARIN region as well, then why do you suggest to use RIPE database? I mean shouldn't most ISP's in RIPE region use radb or their own whois database which mirrors all major IRR databases and thus rr.arin.net among the others? regards, Martin 2013/6/12 Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
On 2013-06-12, at 13:38, Martin T <m4rtntns@gmail.com> wrote:
as I understand, ARIN whois database does not contain "route" objects, which are used for example in RIPE region for automatic BGP prefix filter generation.
whois.arin.net:43 is for assignment/allocation information. Does not use RPSL.
rr.arin.net:43 is a routing registry that uses RPSL.
How does this work in ARIN region? I know that at least some ISP's operating in ARIN region use their own whois databases(for example rr.level3.net) which mirror content from other RIR databases, but are there other methods how they update their internal databases with records?
My general advice for anybody who cares to listen is to use the RIPE db for your objects if you are based in the ARIN region. It saves time if/when you come to peer with an organisation based in the RIPE region, and it makes your objects easy to find for anybody who wants to look for them.
You can install a route in the RIPE db corresponding to number resources assigned elsewhere by authenticating against the RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT maintainer object, for which the plain-text password is "RPSL". Since your new route object will specify mnt-by MAINT-YOURS you will also need to authenticate against that (my favourite method is PGP).
Joe
mntner: RIPE-NCC-RPSL-MNT descr: This maintainer may be used to create objects to represent descr: routing policy in the RIPE Database for number resources not descr: allocated or assigned from the RIPE NCC. admin-c: RD132-RIPE auth: MD5-PW # Filtered remarks: ******************************************************* remarks: * The password for this object is 'RPSL', without the * remarks: * quotes. Do NOT use this maintainer as 'mnt-by'. * remarks: ******************************************************* mnt-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT referral-by: RIPE-DBM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered
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