We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
With how many people cogent connects with, it is almost never a bad idea to have them in your mix. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
We approach this in the following empirical manner. 1) Who is available to you easily and within the budget. 2) Where is the other side of the network connectivity consumers ? i.e. do you need good connectivity to Cable Network ? ATT Broadband ? Europe ? Mexico ? Latin America ? 3) What is the bulk of the traffic type ? Consumer (Video / You Tube ? Netflix ? ) Business ? etc based on the answers to above, I would look at the bgp.he.net to see each options upstream connectivity, and check with peeringdb to see what could be their peering relationships.... finding one that does not have a directly Level3 relationship would be preferred. Also, don't forget to do traffic engineering to nullify the Level3 traffic engineering, (They prefer to keep traffic on-net even if there are better paths available out of their network). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 12:26:55 PM Subject: Provider to Blend with Level3
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
I don't know how accurate it is, but here's a site that more plainly spells out upstream\peer\customer: https://radar.qrator.net/ ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal@snappytelecom.net> To: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 2:15:29 PM Subject: Re: Provider to Blend with Level3 We approach this in the following empirical manner. 1) Who is available to you easily and within the budget. 2) Where is the other side of the network connectivity consumers ? i.e. do you need good connectivity to Cable Network ? ATT Broadband ? Europe ? Mexico ? Latin America ? 3) What is the bulk of the traffic type ? Consumer (Video / You Tube ? Netflix ? ) Business ? etc based on the answers to above, I would look at the bgp.he.net to see each options upstream connectivity, and check with peeringdb to see what could be their peering relationships.... finding one that does not have a directly Level3 relationship would be preferred. Also, don't forget to do traffic engineering to nullify the Level3 traffic engineering, (They prefer to keep traffic on-net even if there are better paths available out of their network). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 12:26:55 PM Subject: Provider to Blend with Level3
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
Hi! If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise. On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
Hi, You can check with CenturyLink Regards ------------ Vaib On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> wrote:
Hi!
If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise.
On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
Another good choice would be Cogent, AS174. We use Cogent along with Level 3. I'd say 2/3 of our traffic is on Level 3 and 1/3 on Cogent. It's been a great blend for us. Justin Wilson recently made some great comments about Cogent on Feb 6, reference subject: Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT. At this point, I would fully rely on Cogent for maintenance or outages on Level 3. A year and a half ago, they had some problems between providers such as Comcast. With Netflix getting direct connections, this is now resolved. -- Jason Canady Unlimited Net, LLC www.unlimitednet.us twitter: @unlimitednet On 2/9/15 2:29 AM, vaibhav nikam wrote:
Hi,
You can check with CenturyLink
Regards ------------ Vaib
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> wrote:
Hi!
If you have he.net there - it will be the best choise.
On 06.02.15 19:26, Colton Conor wrote:
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time to come? Client was talking to TWT, but now that they are being bought by Level3 that doesn't make much sense.
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