Re: Cisco CCNA Training
On 11/2/2014 11:02, Colton Conor wrote:
We have a couple of techs that want to learn cisco and networking in general. What do you recommend for learning and getting certified on Cisco? There seems to be a million different training courses, books, etc out there.
My personal opinion, worth what you paid for it: For learning--work beside an Old Hand that knows it and has a good record. For certification, sign up for the cheapest one. -- The unique Characteristics of System Administrators: The fact that they are infallible; and, The fact that they learn from their mistakes. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon@cox.net> wrote:
For learning--work beside an Old Hand that knows it and has a good record.
Speaking of that, I've been wondering for a while if there are ever network engineer "apprenticeships," so to speak, or if you guys knew of any people or companies who do things like that. Based on my observations, the flat "knowledge" of everything will take you only so far; there's a lot of tips, tricks, non-conforming platform behavior/bugs and "unwritten rules"/"best practices" that really only come with the time of being a net admin. I was envisioning something like the electrician or plumber-type things where you learn the technique from a master artisan of the craft. It seems like a job where the best training *is* that hands on where you get to see all the big/fun equipment and learn from production decisions that were made, strange hardware/configuration problems, etc, but I'd never really seen anyone/company who does these types of things, and I'd really like to get more experience in the field. (everybody I look for that wants a network engineer wants a network engineer, with experience already) Finally, just more of a general question, what else would you recommend to someone who wants to get into the network engineer/operations roles? This could be anything, from books to classes, to whatever. I do already have my CCNA and A+ from while in high school, (my networking I-IV prof was adjunct at the local CC, so we could dual enroll in the local CC and get them to pay for our cert tests :D) and most of a bachelors in Networking and Systems Administration from RIT that I'll be finishing up over the next little bit. I also love radio (K2FUR! :)), so something with cellular really fascinates me, although any sort of networking/ops/disaster recovery really is my passion. Anyway, thanks for your time and potential suggestions! Alex
If you're not too bothered about vendor specific, I'd recommend the following coursera course: https://www.coursera.org/course/comnetworks On 4 November 2014 14:08, Alex Buie <alex.buie@frozenfeline.net> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon@cox.net> wrote:
For learning--work beside an Old Hand that knows it and has a good record.
Speaking of that, I've been wondering for a while if there are ever network engineer "apprenticeships," so to speak, or if you guys knew of any people or companies who do things like that. Based on my observations, the flat "knowledge" of everything will take you only so far; there's a lot of tips, tricks, non-conforming platform behavior/bugs and "unwritten rules"/"best practices" that really only come with the time of being a net admin. I was envisioning something like the electrician or plumber-type things where you learn the technique from a master artisan of the craft.
It seems like a job where the best training *is* that hands on where you get to see all the big/fun equipment and learn from production decisions that were made, strange hardware/configuration problems, etc, but I'd never really seen anyone/company who does these types of things, and I'd really like to get more experience in the field. (everybody I look for that wants a network engineer wants a network engineer, with experience already)
Finally, just more of a general question, what else would you recommend to someone who wants to get into the network engineer/operations roles? This could be anything, from books to classes, to whatever. I do already have my CCNA and A+ from while in high school, (my networking I-IV prof was adjunct at the local CC, so we could dual enroll in the local CC and get them to pay for our cert tests :D) and most of a bachelors in Networking and Systems Administration from RIT that I'll be finishing up over the next little bit. I also love radio (K2FUR! :)), so something with cellular really fascinates me, although any sort of networking/ops/disaster recovery really is my passion.
Anyway, thanks for your time and potential suggestions!
Alex
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