Re: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe? -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19AM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough. you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever. does anyone out there know of such a service? -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:22:46PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19AM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough. you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever.
does anyone out there know of such a service?
Nominum has one. See http://www.nominum.com/GNS/index.html --asp@partan.com (Andrew Partan)
Akamai does it for yahoo and a few others, firstpoint I beleive is the service name.. Matt -- Matt Levine, CTO <mlevine@efront.com> eFront Media, Inc. - http://www.efront.com Phone: +1 714 428 8500 ext. 504 Fax : +1 949 203 2156 ICQ : 17080004 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Henry Yen Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:23 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19AM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough. you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever. does anyone out there know of such a service? -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Henry Yen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19AM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote: > > Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe? > > seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of > dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough. > you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever. > > does anyone out there know of such a service? That's what Nominum's GNS service is. It's hosting some cc-tlds and whatnot at the moment, although they haven't started selling it to smaller customers yet. http://www.nominum.com/GNS/index.html No details on the site, but David Conrad or Paul Vixie or I can tell you more about it. Basically it's a global network of redundant pairs of heterogenous nameservers (Solaris on Netra UltraSparc and NetBSD on IBM Netfinity x86) with IP Anycast so you always get the nearest pair. For example: MAE-West Looking Glass Results Tracing the route to gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) 1 mae-west.above.net (198.32.136.31) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 core1-core2-oc3-2.sjc6.above.net (209.133.31.177) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4 3 pao1-sjc6-oc12.pao1.above.net (207.126.96.54) [AS 6461] 4 msec 0 msec 4 64.124.11.252.nominum.com (64.124.11.252) [AS 6461] 0 msec 0 msec 4 5 gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) [AS 17204] 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec MAE-East Looking Glass Results Tracing the route to gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) 1 iad1-core4-pos1-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.52.186) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 2 dca6-core2-pos1-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.63.5) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 3 dca6-core3-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.110) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 4 above-digex-oc3.iad.above.net (216.200.127.113) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 5 core5-core3-oc48.iad1.above.net (208.185.0.150) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4 6 core2-iad1-oc48.iad5.above.net (216.200.127.14) [AS 6461] 0 msec 4 7 above-gw.nominum.com (216.200.105.54) [AS 6461] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec 8 gns1.nominum.net (198.133.199.1) [AS 17204] 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec Both of those traces are running through AboveNet, but locations are BGP transit multi-homed and peer with a lot of providers, and since it's stateless UDP transactions, all the fail-over is transparent anyway. -Bill
ultradns does this and has a great product. On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Henry Yen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19AM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
seems to me if a company bought a dedicated server in a couple of dozen of the largest hosting sites, that might be enough. you could run dns, remote network monitoring, traffic stats, whatever.
does anyone out there know of such a service? -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 10:17:19PM -0500, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
UltraDNS -- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 To send me mail, use the address in the From: header
www.microsoft.com is already a CNAME for www.microsoft.akadns.net, aka, Akamai =) (Didn't I hear microsoft touting it's wonderful clustering/load balancing features in W2k?) -poptix On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:30:12PM -0500, Henry Yen wrote:
Super-redundant DNS hosting would make a good product. Akamai maybe?
-- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
[ On Thursday, January 25, 2001 at 02:08:45 (-0600), poptix@sleepybox.poptix.net wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Microsoft spokesperson blames ICANN
www.microsoft.com is already a CNAME for www.microsoft.akadns.net, aka, Akamai =)
It doesn't matter what a CNAME points to if you can't even get it. BTW, welcome back Microsoft! (not! :-) $ host -a www.microsoft.com Nameserver not responding www.microsoft.com ANY record not found, try again $ host -C microsoft.com microsoft.com NS DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET Nameserver DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET not responding microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET, try again microsoft.com NS DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET Nameserver DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS7.CP.MSFT.NET, try again microsoft.com NS DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET Nameserver DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS6.CP.MSFT.NET, try again microsoft.com NS DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET Nameserver DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET not reachable microsoft.com SOA record not found at DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET, try again -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP <gwoods@acm.org> <robohack!woods> Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>; Secrets of the Weird <woods@weird.com>
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Andrew Partan
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Bill Woodcock
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Christian Nielsen
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Henry Yen
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John Payne
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Matt Levine
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poptix@sleepybox.poptix.net
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Richard A. Steenbergen
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woods@weird.com