On Jul 9, 16:13, Elise Gerich <epg@merit.edu> wrote:

The NANOG charter: ...Discuss specific implementation issues which require cooperation and coordination among network service providers...

Please use this mailing list as it was intended. Thank you.

I don't think most people here actually disagree with you, but this funny situation has occurred: A casual bystander has decided to use the information openly presented and discussed in this forum to further his own ends. In the process of doing so, he persistently keeps spitting everybody in the face. It is asking too much of people to request them to sit quietly and just take this as it comes. Maybe if said bystander would start acting differently, everybody could get back to more constructive issues. The only alternative would be the one used in most other industries: small, smoke-filled rooms with closed doors -- no bystanders. But this is difficult to implement in the open atmosphere of the Net, and it is sad to see this being taken advantage of. But it is one way for said bystander to implement a self-fulfilling prophesy: the current model is broken. -- ------ ___ --- Per G. Bilse, Mgr Network Operations Ctr ----- / / / __ ___ _/_ ---- EUnet Communications Services B.V. ---- /--- / / / / /__/ / ----- Singel 540, 1017 AZ Amsterdam, NL --- /___ /__/ / / /__ / ------ tel: +31 20 6233803, fax: +31 20 6224657 --- ------- 24hr emergency number: +31 20 421 0865 --- Connecting Europe since 1982 --- http://www.EU.net e-mail: bilse@EU.net