You're saying that you never experience packet loss to _any_ destination unless it's some kind of emergency situation? I find that hard to beleive. What if the destnation's network is chronically congested? Or if the exchange point between your upstream provider and the destination's provider is congested? Or some other fill_in_the_blank ongoing non-emergency problem at the destiantion?

No. I was referring to packet loss due to problems here at ENTERZONE or at FNSI.NET. God knows I we can't control what happens to a packet once it hits that VA based ISP. I would swear that they are releaving congestion on their internal network by load balancing between /dev/null and /dev/void at the MAEs. (grin)

I have no doubt that you maintain an excellent network, and that you have an excellent working relationship with your upstream provider, but how are they going to control what is occuring within {big Tier 1 provider}.

They can't. But they can weight their session with "medium Tier 1 provider" as preferred if the agreement allows until "B.T.1.P" gets a clue or enough complaints from their peers and customers. ------- John Fraizer (tvo) | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:tvo@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation A 486 is a terrible thing to waste...