Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering disputes? T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects hefty charge https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications-acquire-t-mobile... 1,400 customers 1,300 employees 19,000 long-haul route miles 1,300 metro route miles 16,800 leased route miles
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:48 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering disputes?
T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects hefty charge https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications-acquire-t-mobile...
1,400 customers 1,300 employees
19,000 long-haul route miles 1,300 metro route miles 16,800 leased route miles
That's a dollar well spent. It also explains the layoffs.
-- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
$1 deals usually come with an operation in the red, or assumption of significant debts. On 9/7/22, 2:55 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Dave Taht" <nanog-bounces+jbazyar=verobroadband.com@nanog.org on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:48 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote: > > > Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering > disputes? > > T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects > hefty charge > https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications-acquire-t-mobile... > > 1,400 customers > 1,300 employees > > 19,000 long-haul route miles > 1,300 metro route miles > 16,800 leased route miles That's a dollar well spent. It also explains the layoffs. > -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
Well, yes, that goes hand-in-hand with "...expects hefty charge". To me, this just says T-Mobile wants out of the POTS business at almost any cost. All those poor people stuck with Cogent now, I feel sorry for them! Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) https://www.merlin.mb.ca Chat with me on Teams: athompson@merlin.mb.ca
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb.ca@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jawaid Bazyar Sent: September 7, 2022 5:04 PM To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>; Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: End of Cogent-Sprint peering wars?
$1 deals usually come with an operation in the red, or assumption of significant debts.
On 9/7/22, 2:55 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Dave Taht" <nanog- bounces+jbazyar=verobroadband.com@nanog.org on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:48 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote: > > > Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering > disputes? > > T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects > hefty charge > https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications- acquire-t-mobiles-wireline-business-2022-09-07/ > > 1,400 customers > 1,300 employees > > 19,000 long-haul route miles > 1,300 metro route miles > 16,800 leased route miles
That's a dollar well spent. It also explains the layoffs. >
-- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
Is there a hotline for those of us who have Cogent and Sprint….. sighs On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 6:17 PM Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> wrote:
Well, yes, that goes hand-in-hand with "...expects hefty charge". To me, this just says T-Mobile wants out of the POTS business at almost any cost. All those poor people stuck with Cogent now, I feel sorry for them!
Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) https://www.merlin.mb.ca Chat with me on Teams: athompson@merlin.mb.ca
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb.ca@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Jawaid Bazyar Sent: September 7, 2022 5:04 PM To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>; Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: End of Cogent-Sprint peering wars?
$1 deals usually come with an operation in the red, or assumption of significant debts.
On 9/7/22, 2:55 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Dave Taht" <nanog- bounces+jbazyar=verobroadband.com@nanog.org on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:48 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote: > > > Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering > disputes? > > T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects > hefty charge > https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications- acquire-t-mobiles-wireline-business-2022-09-07/ > > 1,400 customers > 1,300 employees > > 19,000 long-haul route miles > 1,300 metro route miles > 16,800 leased route miles
That's a dollar well spent. It also explains the layoffs. >
-- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
1-800-FTC-HELP (Doesn't exist but should) -Adam Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Lou D <telescope40@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 5:49:25 PM To: Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>; Jawaid Bazyar <jbazyar@verobroadband.com>; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>; Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> Subject: Re: End of Cogent-Sprint peering wars? Is there a hotline for those of us who have Cogent and Sprint….. sighs On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 6:17 PM Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca>> wrote: Well, yes, that goes hand-in-hand with "...expects hefty charge". To me, this just says T-Mobile wants out of the POTS business at almost any cost. All those poor people stuck with Cogent now, I feel sorry for them! Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) https://www.merlin.mb.ca Chat with me on Teams: athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca>
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb.ca@nanog.org<mailto:merlin.mb.ca@nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Jawaid Bazyar Sent: September 7, 2022 5:04 PM To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com<mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com>>; Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com<mailto:sean@donelan.com>> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: End of Cogent-Sprint peering wars?
$1 deals usually come with an operation in the red, or assumption of significant debts.
On 9/7/22, 2:55 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Dave Taht" <nanog- bounces+jbazyar=verobroadband.com@nanog.org<mailto:verobroadband.com@nanog.org> on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com<mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:48 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com<mailto:sean@donelan.com>> wrote: > > > Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering > disputes? > > T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects > hefty charge > https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications- acquire-t-mobiles-wireline-business-2022-09-07/ > > 1,400 customers > 1,300 employees > > 19,000 long-haul route miles > 1,300 metro route miles > 16,800 leased route miles
That's a dollar well spent. It also explains the layoffs. >
-- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
Is there a hotline for those of us who have Cogent and Sprint….. sighs
not a pots type, but i find email to the usual addresses works well. two reputable top tier providers. been using one or t'other for decades. but it seems popular for folk with no real skin in the game to diss them. amusing at best. randy
My comment while was intended to a joke , sadly my concern is that Sprint has been a great provider . - Responsive staff - Functional Looking Glass Server - Clear BGP Community documentation Cogent in my experiences from different employers is that Cogent has been inconsistent . It’s a large global network with various assets , systems and personnel maybe it’s to be expected and it’s easy to joke about it . with that said, as Network Engineer who has to depend on these providers my skin is deeply in this game ,I truly hope that the better qualities arise to the surface from the merger . On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 8:00 PM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
Is there a hotline for those of us who have Cogent and Sprint….. sighs
not a pots type, but i find email to the usual addresses works well.
two reputable top tier providers. been using one or t'other for decades.
but it seems popular for folk with no real skin in the game to diss them. amusing at best.
randy
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 01:06, Jawaid Bazyar <jbazyar@verobroadband.com> wrote:
$1 deals usually come with an operation in the red, or assumption of significant debts.
To me this looks like a continuation of the game of attrition for infrastructure players. No one seems to know how to capitalise infrastructure, and ostensibly cheap deals have brought shops down before due to naive buyers (GTT). But I do think this makes sense for both tmus and ccoi, for tmus infrastructure is a bad risk and they can always afford to procure the service at market price, by moving costs to customers. For CCOI they don't have much choice but to figure out how to turn infrastructure into money, if they can't they're dead anyhow, now they're dead just little bit sooner, so it seems like a good risk for CCOI. I am a little bit more optimistic in CCOI leadership's ability to capitalise this than the ability GTT had, and wish them good luck. -- ++ytti
Yes, and the new administration will force more depeering for those that peers with Sprint but not with Cogent. So the net result will be negative. Rubens On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 5:47 PM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
Are Sprint AS1239 and Cogent AS174 finally going to settle their peering disputes?
T-Mobile sells legacy Sprint wireline business to Cogent for $1, expects hefty charge https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/cogent-communications-acquire-t-mobile...
1,400 customers 1,300 employees
19,000 long-haul route miles 1,300 metro route miles 16,800 leased route miles
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