Re: Fwd: Club-Internet/T-Online France
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
Well, what kind of abuse? The whole 212.194.0.0/16 is customer ADSL access and abuse@club-internet.fr works very well.
No, it doesn't. The abuse@club-internet.fr denied that 212.194.0.0/16 belongs to them, and they told me to "talk to the real provider, not club-internet.fr". -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
Well, what kind of abuse? The whole 212.194.0.0/16 is customer ADSL access and abuse@club-internet.fr works very well.
No, it doesn't. The abuse@club-internet.fr denied that 212.194.0.0/16 belongs to them, and they told me to "talk to the real provider, not club-internet.fr".
The RIPE data for that block actually doesn't list abuse@club-internet.fr as a contact. Have you tried the addresses actually listed with that block: ripe@t-online.fr,vox@t-online.fr Neither looks like an abuse address, but hopefully they can forward complaints to the appropriate people. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:20:09PM -0400, jlewis@lewis.org said:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
Well, what kind of abuse? The whole 212.194.0.0/16 is customer ADSL access and abuse@club-internet.fr works very well.
No, it doesn't. The abuse@club-internet.fr denied that 212.194.0.0/16 belongs to them, and they told me to "talk to the real provider, not club-internet.fr".
The RIPE data for that block actually doesn't list abuse@club-internet.fr as a contact. Have you tried the addresses actually listed with that block:
ripe@t-online.fr,vox@t-online.fr
Neither looks like an abuse address, but hopefully they can forward complaints to the appropriate people.
You apparently missed the output saying: ---- remarks: ********************************************************** remarks: Please send all abuse reports to : abuse@club-internet.fr remarks: ********************************************************** ---- :) (good luck Dan) -- Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net illum oportet crescere me autem minui
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:41:49AM -0700, darkuncle@darkuncle.net said: [snip]
The RIPE data for that block actually doesn't list abuse@club-internet.fr as a contact. Have you tried the addresses actually listed with that block:
ripe@t-online.fr,vox@t-online.fr
Neither looks like an abuse address, but hopefully they can forward complaints to the appropriate people.
You apparently missed the output saying: ---- remarks: ********************************************************** remarks: Please send all abuse reports to : abuse@club-internet.fr remarks: ********************************************************** ----
(true, this is only listed for 2 of the 18 blocks that `whois -h whois.ripe.net T-ONLINEFRANCE|grep inetnum` returns, but I can see why Dan tried contacting that address.) -- Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net illum oportet crescere me autem minui
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Scott Francis wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:20:09PM -0400, jlewis@lewis.org said:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Thomas Kuiper wrote:
Well, what kind of abuse? The whole 212.194.0.0/16 is customer ADSL access and abuse@club-internet.fr works very well.
The RIPE data for that block actually doesn't list abuse@club-internet.fr as a contact. Have you tried the addresses actually listed with that block: ripe@t-online.fr,vox@t-online.fr
You apparently missed the output saying: ---- remarks: ********************************************************** remarks: Please send all abuse reports to : abuse@club-internet.fr remarks: ********************************************************** ----
That's easy to miss when it's not there. This is all the ouptut I got from whois 212.194.0.0@whois.ripe.net [whois.ripe.net] % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html inetnum: 212.194.0.0 - 212.194.191.255 netname: T-ONLINEFRANCE-ADSL descr: Pools for ADSL customers country: FR admin-c: NOCT1-RIPE tech-c: NOCT1-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA notify: ripe@t-online.fr mnt-by: T-ONLINEFRANCE changed: vox@t-online.fr 20021015 source: RIPE route: 212.194.0.0/16 descr: T-Online France - Club Internet origin: AS5410 notify: ripe@t-online.fr mnt-by: T-ONLINEFRANCE changed: vox@t-online.fr 20021009 source: RIPE role: Network Operation Centre T-ONLINE FRANCE address: T-Online France - Club Internet address: 11 rue de Cambrai address: 75019 Paris address: France phone: +33 1 55 45 45 00 fax-no: +33 1 55 45 47 78 e-mail: ripe@t-online.fr admin-c: VOX-RIPE tech-c: VOX-RIPE tech-c: FNG-RIPE tech-c: BAX2-RIPE tech-c: DA3757-RIPE tech-c: OT1274-RIPE nic-hdl: NOCT1-RIPE mnt-by: T-ONLINEFRANCE changed: vox@t-online.fr 20020620 source: RIPE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis@lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
+-le 13/05/2003 11:08 -0700, Dan Hollis écrivait : | | On Tue, 13 May 2003, Thomas Kuiper wrote: |> Well, what kind of abuse? |> The whole 212.194.0.0/16 is customer ADSL access |> and abuse@club-internet.fr works very well. | | No, it doesn't. The abuse@club-internet.fr denied that 212.194.0.0/16 | belongs to them, and they told me to "talk to the real provider, not | club-internet.fr". It may make you laugh, or grin, but, yesterday, and maybe today, all Paris mass transportations system were (and maybe still is) on strike, and no one read abuse mail yesterday, as the ppl doing it could not get to work. I hope they'll be today. That could explain why you don't have any news from them. -- Mathieu Arnold
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