RE: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal
My view would concur with this, these are really old battles starting back in the netsol days and now the verisign has taken the same short sighted
This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a website: www.alt-servers.org. -Mike (Please excuse any formatting oddities, sent via OWA) -----Original Message----- From: Jared Mauch To: Henry Linneweh Cc: Paul Vixie; nanog@merit.edu Sent: 9/21/2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 11:23:04PM -0700, Henry Linneweh wrote: path.
It is time that neutral party is in charge -Henry R Linneweh
I was thinking this earlier this week. This is a public-trust that should be operated by people whose sole job is to keep it up and working, not by a dual-role entity as it is today. Perhaps we can get someone to make a not-for-profit for this sole role. - Jared
Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com> wrote:
ICANN can seek specific performance of the agreement by Verisign, or seek to terminate Verisign's contract as the .COM/.NET registry operator and transfer the operation to a successor registry.
Quiet honestly I'd like to see all of the GTLD servers given to neutral companies, ones that ARE not registrars. [...]
frankly i am mystified as to why icann awards registry contracts to for-profit entities. registrars can be for-profit, but registries should be non-profit or public-trust or whatever that specific nation's laws allow for in terms of requirements for open accounting, uniform dealing, and nonconflict with the public's interest. -- Paul Vixie -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a website: www.alt-servers.org.
what a BAD idea. worse than anything else on the table or in existence today. -- Paul Vixie
A lot of people try the alternative root servers since their existance. And I have yet to see one that really worked to convince majority of internet to find it authoritative... alt-servers seems to be emotional response to the problem. No matter how hard you try, I doubt even 20% of all ISP's on the internet will use it :( -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | haesu@towardex.com Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)263-3399 Ext. 174 Fax: (978)263-0033 | POC: HAESU-ARIN On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:37:03PM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a website: www.alt-servers.org.
what a BAD idea. worse than anything else on the table or in existence today. -- Paul Vixie
That may soon change. Seeing as how bad things are getting with VRSGN and ICANN resources are being lined up to solve this problem once and for all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haesu" <haesu@towardex.com> To: "Paul Vixie" <vixie@vix.com>; <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: Re: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal
A lot of people try the alternative root servers since their existance. And I have yet to see one that really worked to convince
majority of internet to find it authoritative...
alt-servers seems to be emotional response to the problem. No matter how hard you try, I doubt even 20% of all ISP's on the
internet will use it :(
-hc
-- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | haesu@towardex.com Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)263-3399 Ext. 174 Fax: (978)263-0033 | POC: HAESU-ARIN
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:37:03PM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a website: www.alt-servers.org.
what a BAD idea. worse than anything else on the table or in existence today. -- Paul Vixie
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a website: www.alt-servers.org.
what a BAD idea. worse than anything else on the table or in existence today.
Splitting the root you mean? I'm not sure there was enough info on that site to come to any other conclusion, but I wanted to make sure. andy -- PGP Key Available at http://www.tigerteam.net/andy/pgp
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