Since you brought it up......I have been to Abovenet's facility at 8100 Boone. Is it empty or what? Are they hurting for business? jas -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Simon Lockhart Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:48 PM To: Leo Bicknell Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: A moment of silence.

It appears that MFS finally went and did it, and the mae-east we all came to know and love has finally been turned off. Please bow your heads for a moment of silence.

So what is everyone going to do instead? Join MAE-East-ATM? Join PAIX-VA? Join ISPCondo? (Abovenet's NAP in 8100 Boone) Just give up on Vienna, VA? Simon -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart@bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/

Last I heard they had a new facility off site from 8100 that they were filling instead of 8100 On Jun 3, 2001 Simon Lockhart spake:

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Since you brought it up......I have been to Abovenet's facility at 8100 Boone. Is it empty or what?

I was last there about 6 months ago. The bits I saw were full (in fact, I had to fight with Abovenet to get a single rack!).

I believe that many colos are feeling the pressure from the .com collapse (in London, I know of colo providers who suddenly have multiple 10k sq ft suites available).

Simon

-- Rich Sena - ras@thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."

I'd have to concur - pre-MFN experience with AboveNET was a lot more customer friendly... we used to have a sales rep that would die for us there - he would beg borrow and steal to make us happy - it would take a phone call and a verbal committment to get a new line run to the cage etc... after the buyout (and exodus of some good folks) ther service really got formal - with everything needing to be in writing and all contacts needing to get a ticket via their support center... but we were still happy with the product to say the least... On Jun 3, 2001 Tim Wilde spake:

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Since you brought it up......I have been to Abovenet's facility at 8100 Boone. Is it empty or what?

Are they hurting for business?

If the treatment we received from one of their sales reps while trying to get colocation quotes for their (as yet incomplete, far behind schedule, AFAIK) Boston datacenter is representative to how they treat all customers, it wouldn't surprise me that they'd be hurting for business. I'm still waiting for a quote that I was promised within a day two months ago, and have long since gone with a different provider.

Tim

-- Rich Sena - ras@thick.net ThickNET Consulting "On the way to understanding; you understand, and forget."

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Leo Bicknell wrote:

Last I checked no one was predicting MFN was going to go bankrupt, which is more than I can say for much of the competition. I suggest you do your own research on the company though, start with the ticker symbol MFNX.

Some traders may disagree. 52-week range from 44.00 to 3.36, now basking in penny stock heaven. While you're at it, check out the PSIX 1 year chart. Some striking similarities with the MFNX 1 year chart cannot be ignored. --Mitch NetSide

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Mitch Halmu wrote:

Some traders may disagree. 52-week range from 44.00 to 3.36, now basking in penny stock heaven.

While you're at it, check out the PSIX 1 year chart. Some striking similarities with the MFNX 1 year chart cannot be ignored.

Mitch, the last time I checked, MFNX was not losing 1,397.3M per quarter. Go look at the 10-Qs. --msa

Well, in the last quarter MFNX's cash position dropped substantially. Mar 31 2001 Mar 31 2000 EFFECT OF EXCHANGE RATE CHANGES ON CASH .................................... (47,310) (4,795) NET INCREASE (DECREASE) IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS ....................... (695,541) 1,273,438 CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS-BEGINNING OF PERIOD .............................. 1,148,888 1,262,391 ----------- ----------- CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS-END OF PERIOD .................................... $ 453,347 $ 2,535,829 =========== =========== So they lost $695M in real cash in the period ending March 31, 2001. Considering they only have $453M in cash afterwards, let's hope they have a better quarter all around (ending June 30 2001). Their "net loss" for the most recent quarter was *only* $148M, on all of $76M for the quarter (including Abovenet and all other operations). Or they are still losing 2x revenue in operations income or ~8x revenue in absolute cash. I admit, this is WAY off topic, but maybe will help people plan their transit purchases. Deepak Jain AiNET -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Majdi S. Abbas Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:40 PM To: Mitch Halmu Cc: Leo Bicknell; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: A moment of silence. On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:22:28PM -0400, Mitch Halmu wrote:

Some traders may disagree. 52-week range from 44.00 to 3.36, now basking in penny stock heaven.

While you're at it, check out the PSIX 1 year chart. Some striking similarities with the MFNX 1 year chart cannot be ignored.

Mitch, the last time I checked, MFNX was not losing 1,397.3M per quarter. Go look at the 10-Qs. --msa