Yo John! I also checked the ARIN database. Many of those cable companies with 24/8 allocations appear to be @home franchises. The obvious one is rogers@home. I sure do not see any RoadRunner space in there. Also, there is NO allocation other than @home/s to about 24.100 so you are right that it is not a /8 , it is closer to a /9 now. Does anyone else have a buffer a fraction of that size? Those other 24/8s are sure jammed in together. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)383-2435 On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, John Crain wrote:

Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:21:33 +0100 From: John Crain <john@ripe.net> To: gary miller <gem@rellim.com> Cc: cjw@corp.home.net, nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ARIN?

"Gary E. Miller" <gem@rellim.com> writes: * Yo CJ! * * I was under the impression that although @home was currently allocate * just part of the 24/8 space, that the entire space was RESERVED for * future expansion of @home. Is this not true? Certainly no-one else * is getting space from that block.

Hi Gary,

This is not true. For clarity there are others using 24/8 space.

A quick search of the whois databases quickly shows this.

I wish people wouldn't make statements without checking the facts first.

I found 123 route objects in the routing registry. A few were double and some were obviously @home but many weren't.

I agree we should drop the whole thread but we should not end it on a misinformed statement.

John Crain