Re: MTU of the Internet?
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> By loading the images in parallel over multiple TCP connections, you also totally screw the TCP congestion avoidance mechanisms, and hurt the net as a whole, especially given how prevalent HTTP is these days. Unfortunately, as has been seen here, very few people working with the net these days actually understand the details of things the net depends on, and TCP congestion avoidance is one of them.
Thank you, Perry! Hey, why bother with that congestion control stuff? It just makes the users complain about slowness.... Just spew the packets as fast as you can, like RealXXX, and screw everybody else. The sooner Fair Queuing is installed (it has been in many smaller vendors' products for 5-6 years, why has Cisco taken so long?), with RED (again, this is several years old), the sooner the blackguards can be bumped out the way of well-behaved applications. This is supposedly an operations list. So, everyone, when are you configuring it in _YOUR_ Cisco? WSimpson@UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
This is supposedly an operations list. So, everyone, when are you configuring it in _YOUR_ Cisco?
Even better, how am I configuring this on my Bay ASN? C
WSimpson@UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ Charles Sprickman Internet Channel INCH System Administration Team (212)243-5200 spork@inch.com access@inch.com
Not everyone uses Cisco. Some of us use Bay, others are home-brewed GateD on PC/unix, still others are Ascend GRF. I think, though, that covers everything ISP's use (ignoring dialup servers). Nanog is not a cisco user group -- remember who owns GateD these days. William Allen Simpson wrote:
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> By loading the images in parallel over multiple TCP connections, you also totally screw the TCP congestion avoidance mechanisms, and hurt the net as a whole, especially given how prevalent HTTP is these days. Unfortunately, as has been seen here, very few people working with the net these days actually understand the details of things the net depends on, and TCP congestion avoidance is one of them.
Thank you, Perry!
Hey, why bother with that congestion control stuff? It just makes the users complain about slowness.... Just spew the packets as fast as you can, like RealXXX, and screw everybody else.
The sooner Fair Queuing is installed (it has been in many smaller vendors' products for 5-6 years, why has Cisco taken so long?), with RED (again, this is several years old), the sooner the blackguards can be bumped out the way of well-behaved applications.
This is supposedly an operations list. So, everyone, when are you configuring it in _YOUR_ Cisco?
WSimpson@UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32
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