i think terroists are going to love ipv6
http://www.circleid.com/articles/2539.asp and i expect so will freedom fighters in china et. al. Maybe the subject of a future interview. and the biggest question of all, will china block the ipv6 protocol for homeland security reasons? i look forward to some answers. Cheers Joe Baptista -- Planet Communications & Computing Facility a division of The dot.GOD Registry, Limited
Not commenting on some of the fantasies in the article.... From what I remember China is pretty is active in IPv6 and from the APNIC presentations they also have a allocation. Not sure how come to the conclusions you do.... - kurtis - On onsdag, sep 25, 2002, at 11:55 Europe/Stockholm, Joe Baptista wrote:
http://www.circleid.com/articles/2539.asp
and i expect so will freedom fighters in china et. al. Maybe the subject of a future interview. and the biggest question of all, will china block the ipv6 protocol for homeland security reasons?
i look forward to some answers.
Cheers Joe Baptista
-- Planet Communications & Computing Facility a division of The dot.GOD Registry, Limited
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
Not commenting on some of the fantasies in the article....
you should point out any fantasies you find in the article. i can support my findings with facts. fiction is a best a condition dictated by bureacrats, and on the internet that end up a comedy of errors. ipv6 is an end control system at this time in an ipv6 cloud where the ends are under complete end user control. i love ipv6. am looking forward to playing with it.
From what I remember China is pretty is active in IPv6 and from the APNIC presentations they also have a allocation. Not sure how come to the conclusions you do....
who cares. China is not aware of the security implications to the homeland. china is after all a nation ruled by madarines. the colours of authority change with the wind but the rules of the mandarine class has not ended. order is critical to the natural balance of chiness society. ipv6 challenges order. so what will the nat wall of china do now. i shall of course be investigating. i think icann goes to china next ;) cheers joe
- kurtis -
On onsdag, sep 25, 2002, at 11:55 Europe/Stockholm, Joe Baptista wrote:
http://www.circleid.com/articles/2539.asp
and i expect so will freedom fighters in china et. al. Maybe the subject of a future interview. and the biggest question of all, will china block the ipv6 protocol for homeland security reasons?
i look forward to some answers.
Cheers Joe Baptista
-- Planet Communications & Computing Facility a division of The dot.GOD Registry, Limited
On Wed 25 Sep 2002 (08:31 -0400), Joe Baptista wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
Not commenting on some of the fantasies in the article....
you should point out any fantasies you find in the article. i can support my findings with facts. fiction is a best a condition dictated by bureacrats, and on the internet that end up a comedy of errors. ipv6 is an end control system at this time in an ipv6 cloud where the ends are under complete end user control. i love ipv6. am looking forward to playing with it.
From what I remember China is pretty is active in IPv6 and from the APNIC presentations they also have a allocation. Not sure how come to the conclusions you do....
who cares. China is not aware of the security implications to the homeland. china is after all a nation ruled by madarines. the colours of authority change with the wind but the rules of the mandarine class has not ended. order is critical to the natural balance of chiness society.
ipv6 challenges order. so what will the nat wall of china do now. i shall of course be investigating. i think icann goes to china next ;)
Could further nonsense in this direction please be sent to a newsgroup like alt.test please? Nanog is hardly the place for such incisive analysis of the current political order or social structures of China. And it's Mandarin. Capitalized even. Which suggests the depth of research which has obviously gone into this. -- Jim Segrave jes@nl.demon.net
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jim Segrave wrote:
who cares. China is not aware of the security implications to the homeland. china is after all a nation ruled by madarines. the colours of authority change with the wind but the rules of the mandarine class has not ended. order is critical to the natural balance of chiness society.
ipv6 challenges order. so what will the nat wall of china do now. i shall of course be investigating. i think icann goes to china next ;)
Could further nonsense in this direction please be sent to a newsgroup like alt.test please?
Nanog is hardly the place for such incisive analysis of the current political order or social structures of China.
And it's Mandarin. Capitalized even. Which suggests the depth of research which has obviously gone into this.
hey - the chiness are a speciality of mine ;) lynx www.dot-god.com/bod/jb/chinasponsor.html and these are issues that we are going to have to deal with. and it's no picnic for the people who have to manage ipv6 infrastructure. the chines are the least of our concerns. cheers joe baptista p.s. i still have no idea where the fantasy in my article exists. so far i just see i-society complaints of madness but no substance.
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/25/2002 at 9:04 AM Joe Baptista wrote:
hey - the chiness are a speciality of mine ;)
But spelling obviously isn't. -- Jeff Shultz Network Support Technician Willamette Valley Internet 503-769-3331 (Stayton) 503-390-7000 (Salem) tech@wvi.com ...most of us have as our claim to fame the ability to talk to inanimate objects and convince them they want to listen to us. -- Valdis Kletnieks in a.s.r
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Joe Baptista wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jeff Shultz wrote:
hey - the chiness are a speciality of mine ;)
But spelling obviously isn't.
i try not to bother in conferences. if my spelling confuses anyone just ask and i'll clarify.
I think the only thing confusing people is why you continue to post self-serving lunacy to the list. Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access
i try not to bother in conferences. if my spelling confuses anyone just ask and i'll clarify. I think the only thing confusing people is why you continue to post self-serving lunacy to the list.
no, we're long used to that. and most have filters for joe. what confuses us is why folk reply to him randy
On September 25, 2002 12:41 pm, Andy Dills wrote:
I think the only thing confusing people is why you continue to post self-serving lunacy to the list.
Because people keep responding to him. Trust me, ignoring him is the only thing that works. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@{druid|vex}.net> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.
RFC1925 Part 2.4 On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Joe Baptista wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jim Segrave wrote:
who cares. China is not aware of the security implications to the homeland. china is after all a nation ruled by madarines. the colours of authority change with the wind but the rules of the mandarine class has not ended. order is critical to the natural balance of chiness society.
ipv6 challenges order. so what will the nat wall of china do now. i shall of course be investigating. i think icann goes to china next ;)
Could further nonsense in this direction please be sent to a newsgroup like alt.test please?
Nanog is hardly the place for such incisive analysis of the current political order or social structures of China.
And it's Mandarin. Capitalized even. Which suggests the depth of research which has obviously gone into this.
hey - the chiness are a speciality of mine ;)
lynx www.dot-god.com/bod/jb/chinasponsor.html
and these are issues that we are going to have to deal with. and it's no picnic for the people who have to manage ipv6 infrastructure. the chines are the least of our concerns.
cheers joe baptista
p.s. i still have no idea where the fantasy in my article exists. so far i just see i-society complaints of madness but no substance.
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