--- gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com wrote: There is a theory of management that says a good manager needs to know nothing about the staff or the jobs he is managing, --------------------------------------------- <neck hair == raised> :-)

From empirical data, this is not a good thing for companies. They constantly make bad choices because they not only don't understand the concepts, but can't even grasp the consequences of their decision.

For example, I had four GigEs each to several upstreams. I pointed the BGP session to the loopback at the provider's router, so the traffic would load share across the four GigEs. I was told my one of those managers who "needs to know nothing about the staff or the jobs he is managing" that was not redundant and that I had to do one BGP session per GigE, so four BGP sessions to each upstream. After some heated discussions with the manager about why that was not a good design decision, I warmed up my resume and started looking for a new job. scott