In message "ATM vs. DS3", you write:

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From: Josh Beck <jbeck@connectnet.com> Now, the question is, what is the overhead of the serial (ppp?) protocol running over the T3? Since it is point to point, and not addressed, it should be less, or is this not the case?

The framing overhead for PPP over DS3 is about 7 bytes per packet. You can make it as few as 4 (PPP header compression) or as long as 10 (32-bit checksum).

I don't know anyone shipping PPP data compression yet at those speeds, although I've heard of a project using multiple Stac LZS chips.

Anyway, you will get a lot better performance out of a PPP link than an ATM link; certainly in the short term, and probably in the long term.

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======================================================== I think what the question is how much is lost in overhead for Frame Relay over ATM vs straight PPP on a DS3 link. (I'm assuming that since he says CIR he means FrameRelay and does not really mean SCR). My understanding is that you really arent loosing anything to cellification since the 4 Mb CIR is what the provider guarantees to you. i.e. the overhead has already been accounted for in getting to 4 Mb. The raw bandwidth required to achieve to get 4 Mb is; 4 Mb * 53/48 = 4.42 Mb To see what the PPP overhead consult RFC 1661. Regards Avitosh Pal Nortel Magellan Networks 613-723-4021 ===========================================================